[NA-Discuss] Fwd: Language

Wed Jun 6 09:56:41 EDT 2007

Darlene, I think there's a misunderstanding. ISOC PR couldn't  
participate in the LACRALO ceremony because they aren't part of that  
region. Of course they would be able to participate fully in any such  
for NARALO.

On the second question:

Since I already arrange translations into French (for Africa) and  
Spanish (for LAC), there is indeed funding for these languages. Of  
course we have to be selective as to what is translated but those  
languages are included basically for everything that does get  
translated at all.

On 6 Jun 2007, at 14:29, Thompson, Darlene wrote:

> They were told that “Because of this we could not vote or  
> officially participate in the final ceremony“.  WHAT?!?!  Where the  
> heck did something THAT bizarre idea come from???  They are either  
> part of the NARALO with full privileges like anybody else or not.
>
>
> Personally, I think that they should get to choose which RALO they  
> would like to be with although I do understand the thinking of  
> having them as part of NA since they are part of the US.  If they  
> stick with us then Spanish would have to be included as one of our  
> official languages.
>
>
> Nick:  Is there an adequate budget for translations into both  
> French and Spanish?
>
>
> D
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> Darlene A. Thompson
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> Community Access Program Administrator
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> Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
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> c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
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> Iqaluit, NU  X0A 0H0
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> Phone:  (867) 975-6531
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> Fax:  (867) 979-8870
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> dthompson at gov.nu.ca
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> ISOC Puerto Rico was invited to Sao Paulo last year to participate  
> and help
>
> during the creation of the LACRALO, which we did. However, at the  
> time of
>
> the final vote to accept the OPs and MOU we were told that ISOC PR  
> had been
>
> approved as an ALS but under NARALO (?). Because of this we could  
> not vote
>
> or officially participate in the final ceremony. We were told that the
>
> decision was made based on the political relationship with the US. Who
>
> knows!?
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> Nevertheless, we can work with either RALO. The important thing is  
> that we
>
> participate.
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> In Puerto Rico we have two official languages - Spanish and  
> English. Since
>
> the motion is to go with official languages in the ALS, then  
> Spanish should
>
> be included. If this is too much of a slippery slope to handle then  
> send us
>
> to the LACRALO and there will be no language issues.
>
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> Eduardo Diaz
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> President
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> ISOC Puerto Rico
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> [mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of  
> Jacqueline
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> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Language
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> Actually, they did ask if they could be LACRALO members - LACRALO  
> determined
>
> it had no issue accepting them if they wanted to be - but that was  
> last year
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> before there was movement on forming the NARALO.
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> But with regard to languages - if the agreement was for the official
>
> languages of the members of the regions, then, as PR is a member of  
> the
>
> region, Spanish should be included. No matter how many or how few  
> people
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> speak it.
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> ICANN did have a consultation going on the regional classification  
> a while
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> ago -I can check back to see what came of it - I don't recall seeing a
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> report or anything yet.
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> Jacqueline
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> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Language
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> Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:
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>> Well - from what I remember - feel free to correct - Puerto Rico is
> officially bilingual, isn't it? And it is part of NARALO. I leave  
> it up to
>
> the Puerto Rican NARALO member to decide whether to take this  
> forward or
>
> not. I believe that after the meeting in SJ, there will be more ALS
>
> applicants from PR, so maybe then they can call for Spanish if they  
> want to.
>>
>
> Well, then you open the issue of why there should be a RALO with only
>
> three participating jurisdictions.
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>
> Funny, elswehere in the world the RALO boundaries are drawn on
>
> continental boundaries. Newcomers can only wonder about the politics
>
> behind the decision to keep the Caribbean and Mexico out of North
>
> America on ICANN's globe.
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> Of course, one other option is to ask the Puerto Rican ALSs if they'd
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> prefer to be part of the LAC-RALO
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> - Evan
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