[NA-Discuss] [At-Large] Budget provisions relating to DomainTasting

[Danny Younger]

Re:  "It is again odd that a raise of full $2.00 can
be justified in this way."

Sorry, but why do you think that this is odd?  

Board members know the Redemption Grace Period Fee
charged by Registries is set at $40, and that many
registrars will charge well in excess of 4X markup --
eNom is at $160, while some hosting companies charge
as much as $260.

Registrar markup of the 42 cent fee increase is to be
expected.  A 4X markup would raise a registrar price
by $1.68, and higher markups could easily raise it
over $2.00.

Was the Board so blinded to reality that they thought
that registrars would either eat or simply pass along
the 42 cents?  Markup is part of normal business.  You
shouldn't find it odd.

What you should find odd is the miserable
justifications that were given by Board members for
screwing the public with an unjustified price
increase.



--- Roberto Gaetano <roberto at icann.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> First of all, I am sure that Alan knows about the
> details of Domain Tasting,
> since in the ALAC mailing lists this problem has
> been rased since months, an
> issue report has been requested by ALAC, and Alan is
> in the GNSO team who is
> in charge for further fact finding.
> 
> This said, the fact that domain tasting bring an
> increase in "regular"
> registrations is exactly the evidence brought by
> domainers and domain
> tasters/kiters to justify the practice. It is at
> least odd that the same
> phenomenon is brought up in this discussion. Being
> paranoiac by nature, I
> tend to pay attention to coincidences.
> 
> Last but not least, the price increase is orthogonal
> to this issue, as it
> comes from the 7% increase that registries (not
> ICANN!) will apply. This
> increase accounts for a grand total of .42 USD,
> "autrement dit" 42 cents of
> US$. It is again odd that a raise of full $2.00 can
> be justified in this
> way, and it is at least suspicious that a long time
> militant omits to remark
> that the issues are separated and that a raise of
> such extent is not
> justified.
> 
> Incidentally, relevant ICANN staff in copy to craft
> appropriate follow up to
> AIT Domains, thanks Danny for pointing out media
> clip.
> 
> Regards,
> Roberto
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
> > [mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On
> Behalf Of 
> > Danny Younger
> > Sent: 08 July 2007 21:27
> > To: Michael Maranda; At-Large Worldwide; 
> > na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > Subject: Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Budget
> provisions 
> > relating to DomainTasting
> > 
> > Re:  The small increase may seem trivial, but the
> principle 
> > is more important.
> > 
> > The price increase (which won't go into effect
> until October 
> > 15) is not trivial -- registrars are already
> raising their 
> > prices in anticipation of the price
> > increase:
> > 
> > "AIT Domains says that under the promotion all
> domain names 
> > will cost $6.49 until July 6. However, due to
> recently 
> > announced price increases from ICANN, AIT Domains
> says it's 
> > being forced to raise its prices.
> > Rates are currently scheduled to go up to $8.49
> per 
> > registration year on July 9."  
> > 
> >
>
http://www.thewhir.com/marketwatch/070307_AIT_Holds_Fourth_of_
> July_Special.cfm
> > 
> > What's more important than all of this is the
> issue of bad 
> > decision-making on the part of the unaccountable
> ICANN Board. 
> >  The Internet community has no way of "throwing
> the bums out" 
> > because ICANN remains accountable to no one.
> > 
> > Until this problem is solved it really doesn't
> much matter 
> > what the community consensus is on the AGP or
> anything 
> > else... ICANN remains free to ignore the voice of
> the people.  
> > 
> > Presently, ICANN profits from the consequences of
> domain 
> > tasting... the more names that are tasted, the
> more names 
> > that will eventually be registered as some of
> these names can 
> > successfully be monetized.  Profits for the
> registries, 
> > profits for the registrars, profits for ICANN...
> there were 
> > about 16 million new registrations last year (a
> good chunk of 
> > them the direct result of tasting activities).  
> > 
> > Don't expect to prevail on this issue without
> putting up a 
> > spectacular fight and screaming for action at
> every 
> > opportunity -- convincing a corporation to kill a
> lucrative 
> > cash cow can only be an uphill battle.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >        
> >
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