[NA-Discuss] NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 9, Issue 19 - Streamlined Communications
Seth M. Reiss
seth.reiss at lex-ip.com
Fri Jul 6 15:27:08 EDT 2007
Yes, Yes, Please Streamline.
Grazie.
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1. Re: icannalac.org website (RJGlass | America at Large)
2. Independent At-Large Website (Annette Muehlberg)
3. Re: [At-Large] Independent At-Large Website (Nick Ashton-Hart)
4. Re: [APAC-Discuss] [At-Large] Independent At-Large Website
(Annette Muehlberg)
5. Re: [At-Large] Independent At-Large Website (Eduardo Diaz)
6. Re: [At-Large] Independent At-Large Website (John L)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 03:55:57 -0800
From: "RJGlass | America at Large" <jipshida at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] icannalac.org website
To: "Nick Ashton-Hart" <nick.ashton-hart at icann.org>
Cc: robin at ipjustice.org, ALAC Izumi AIZU <aizu at anr.org>, Annette
Muehlberg <Annette.Muehlberg at web.de>,
na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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Could we have a Working Group for Internet resources??
Nick did a great job in setting all this up. Some of us probably remember
the annual 'quarterly newsletter' and what we have now is so much better.
However I think it's too confusing to keep up with which sites we use for
what. Just keeping up with the email list is a chore. I think it should be
streamlined in some manner.
Randy Glass
A at L
On 7/5/07, Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart at icann.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 4 Jul 2007, at 18:05, Jean Armour Polly wrote:
>
> > At 8:37 AM +0100 7/4/07, Nick Ashton-Hart recently said:
> >> As the Committee has been repeatedly informed, the situation is
> >> that anyone being paid by ICANN must have anything they post
> >> publicly approved via the GCs office.
> >
> > What if the webmaster just posted things FROM the committee, from
> > volunteers, would that be OK? In addition, I used to make pointers
> > to news stories around ICANN.org itself, to make documents easier
> > for ALAC members to find. And occasionally I pointed to other posts
> > about other things, like conferences in the Caribbean, ISP providers
> > in Africa, etc. There is a difference in these sorts of tasks, as
> > opposed to acting as a "speaker" for ICANN.
> >
>
> No - it would still need to be cleared through legal if the poster was
> paid by ICANN.
>
>
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Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:38:31 +0200
From: Annette Muehlberg <Annette.Muehlberg at web.de>
Subject: [NA-Discuss] Independent At-Large Website
To: Africa Discuss <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, At-Large
Worldwide <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Asia-Pacific Discuss
<apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Europe Discuss
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All,
a discussion has been started on the NARALO list on how to continue to run
our independent ALAC/RALO website after our voluntary website manager Jean
had to leave the ALAC december last year. The ALAC thought we could hire
someone (her) to help to feed in texts by ALAC/RALO members on our website
but after handing in our project form we were finally told that in this case
our website would loose its independent status and any text would have to be
controlled by ICANN lawyers.
So, I am very happy that Eduardo from Puerto Rico just volunteered for
running our independent ALAC/RALO website!
After he volunteered we now receive the information a "new website is being
built".
The ALAC made a strong effort to create its own independent website and I
think, we should work together and discuss the best structuring of the
website and related work together on the At-Large list, so that we will have
the full power and creativity of all regions included!
best greetings to all of you
Annette
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:02:11 +0100
From: Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] [At-Large] Independent At-Large Website
To: Annette Muehlberg <Annette.Muehlberg at web.de>
Cc: LAC Discuss <lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, At-Large
Worldwide <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Europe Discuss
<euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Africa Discuss
<afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Asia-Pacific Discuss
<apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, NA Discuss
<na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
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Annette, I should be remiss if I didn't point out that there are a few
errors in your statement below - perhaps you've forgotten, but I informed
the ALAC quite a while ago that a new website to replace alac.icann.org was
being built; my staff report for May provided further details of what that
site would provide, and of course in the last few days I have provided
additional information. This is long before Eduardo's kind offer to act as
webmaster for icannalac.org.
Also, I told the ALAC the issue with legal review of contents posted by
anyone paid by ICANN as long ago as last December - long before the project
funding request was put through for Jean to be paid to update icannalac.org.
Of course if the ALAC wants to maintain the website which was paid for by
ICANN so that the ALAC has an independent voice, that would be great! As
far as I can see, these are not competitive efforts, but rather
complimentary efforts.
On 6 Jul 2007, at 13:38, Annette Muehlberg wrote:
> All,
>
> a discussion has been started on the NARALO list on how to continue to
> run our independent ALAC/RALO website after our voluntary website
> manager Jean had to leave the ALAC december last year. The ALAC
> thought we could hire someone (her) to help to feed in texts by
> ALAC/RALO members on our website but after handing in our project form
> we were finally told that in this case our website would loose its
> independent status and any text would have to be controlled by ICANN
> lawyers.
>
> So, I am very happy that Eduardo from Puerto Rico just volunteered for
> running our independent ALAC/RALO website!
> After he volunteered we now receive the information a "new website is
> being built".
>
> The ALAC made a strong effort to create its own independent website
> and I think, we should work together and discuss the best structuring
> of the website and related work together on the At- Large list, so
> that we will have the full power and creativity of all regions
> included!
>
> best greetings to all of you
>
> Annette
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ALAC mailing list
> ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-
> lists.icann.org
>
> At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent:
> http://www.icannalac.org
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:54:52 +0200
From: Annette Muehlberg <Annette.Muehlberg at web.de>
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] [APAC-Discuss] [At-Large] Independent
At-Large Website
To: Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart at icann.org>
Cc: LAC Discuss <lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, At-Large
Worldwide <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Europe Discuss
<euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Africa Discuss
<afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Asia-Pacific Discuss
<apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, NA Discuss
<na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Message-ID: <1567096796 at web.de>
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Complementary sounds good. But we have to keep our working structures
efficient and this is why we should discuss how to best run our website and
make sure we have not to do similar work on different spots.
And we have to have the possibility to post what we think needs to be
posted/published right away. The only possibility to do so is on an
independent website.
We already discussed, that the ICANN website should contain all the standard
information on ALAC/RALO members, ALS accreditation procedure etc.
Now, that all RALOs are in place we should work on a very efficient working
structure including the need of regional focused work as well as the united
work on certain issues on a global level.
Best
Annette
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:03:07 -0400
From: "Eduardo Diaz" <ediaz at prtc.net>
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] [At-Large] Independent At-Large Website
To: "'Nick Ashton-Hart'" <nick.ashton-hart at icann.org>, "'Annette
Muehlberg'" <Annette.Muehlberg at web.de>
Cc: 'LAC Discuss' <lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, 'At-Large
Worldwide' <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, 'Europe Discuss'
<euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, 'Africa Discuss'
<afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, 'Asia-Pacific Discuss'
<apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, 'NA Discuss'
<na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Message-ID: <00d001c7bfd6$62d68140$220110ac at Eduardo>
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All:
No I am confused. I read what Nick wrote about the new AlAC web site (in a
previous mail) and after reading this I am not sure what is what. Are we
talking about two different sites - one filtered by ICANN lawyers and one
that is not?
Help!
Eduardo
ISOCPR
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From: Nick Ashton-Hart [mailto:nick.ashton-hart at icann.org]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 9:02 AM
To: Annette Muehlberg
Cc: Africa Discuss; At-Large Worldwide; Asia-Pacific Discuss; Europe
Discuss; LAC Discuss; NA Discuss; ediaz at prtc.net
Subject: Re: [At-Large] Independent At-Large Website
Annette, I should be remiss if I didn't point out that there are a few
errors in your statement below - perhaps you've forgotten, but I informed
the ALAC quite a while ago that a new website to replace alac.icann.org was
being built; my staff report for May provided further details of what that
site would provide, and of course in the last few days I have provided
additional information. This is long before Eduardo's kind offer to act as
webmaster for icannalac.org.
Also, I told the ALAC the issue with legal review of contents posted by
anyone paid by ICANN as long ago as last December - long before the project
funding request was put through for Jean to be paid to update icannalac.org.
Of course if the ALAC wants to maintain the website which was paid for by
ICANN so that the ALAC has an independent voice, that would be great! As
far as I can see, these are not competitive efforts, but rather
complimentary efforts.
On 6 Jul 2007, at 13:38, Annette Muehlberg wrote:
> All,
>
> a discussion has been started on the NARALO list on how to continue to
> run our independent ALAC/RALO website after our voluntary website
> manager Jean had to leave the ALAC december last year. The ALAC
> thought we could hire someone (her) to help to feed in texts by
> ALAC/RALO members on our website but after handing in our project form
> we were finally told that in this case our website would loose its
> independent status and any text would have to be controlled by ICANN
> lawyers.
>
> So, I am very happy that Eduardo from Puerto Rico just volunteered for
> running our independent ALAC/RALO website!
> After he volunteered we now receive the information a "new website is
> being built".
>
> The ALAC made a strong effort to create its own independent website
> and I think, we should work together and discuss the best structuring
> of the website and related work together on the At- Large list, so
> that we will have the full power and creativity of all regions
> included!
>
> best greetings to all of you
>
> Annette
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ALAC mailing list
> ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-
> lists.icann.org
>
> At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent:
> http://www.icannalac.org
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 11:14:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: John L <johnl at iecc.com>
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] [At-Large] Independent At-Large Website
To: Eduardo Diaz <ediaz at prtc.net>
Cc: 'LAC Discuss' <lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, 'At-Large
Worldwide' <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, 'Europe Discuss'
<euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, 'Annette Muehlberg'
<Annette.Muehlberg at web.de>, 'Africa Discuss'
<afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, 'Asia-Pacific Discuss'
<apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, 'NA Discuss'
<na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Message-ID: <20070706111407.R44847 at simone.iecc.com>
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> No I am confused. I read what Nick wrote about the new AlAC web site
> (in a previous mail) and after reading this I am not sure what is
> what. Are we talking about two different sites - one filtered by ICANN
> lawyers and one that is not?
That was certainly our intention at icannalac.org.
Regards,
John Levine, johnl at iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for
Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com,
ex-Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.
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