[NA-Discuss] icannalac.org website

Wed Jul 4 13:05:50 EDT 2007

At 8:37 AM +0100 7/4/07, Nick Ashton-Hart recently said:
>As the Committee has been repeatedly informed, the situation is that 
>anyone being paid by ICANN must have anything they post publicly 
>approved via the GCs office.

What if the webmaster just posted things FROM the committee, from 
volunteers, would that be OK? In addition, I used to make pointers to 
news stories around ICANN.org itself, to make documents easier for 
ALAC members to find. And occasionally I pointed to other posts about 
other things, like conferences in the Caribbean, ISP providers in 
Africa, etc. There is a difference in these sorts of tasks, as 
opposed to acting as a "speaker" for ICANN.

>It is also worth noting that the members of the committee have, and 
>always have had, the ability to post themselves directly to 
>icannalac.org. It was setup specifically so that all the committee 
>members could maintain the content.

Are all incoming committee members (as mentioned, so many are new) 
made aware of the icannalac independent site? I don't believe Larry 
has been asked to upgrade any users to "Author" status in months. New 
ALS's? RALOs? Maybe they just don't know this facility exists? The 
other possibility is that their needs are met by other means, such as 
SocialText or wikis?

Anyone ALAC chooses can be the icannalac webmaster, it doesn't have 
to be me-- I'd just hate to see the independent site die, since at 
one time ALAC pushed so hard to have it created because they felt 
they couldn't say what needed to be said on an ALAC site controlled 
by the ICANN General Counsel.

thanks
JP

>On 3 Jul 2007, at 17:17, Michael Maranda wrote:
>
>>Is the constraint a matter of whether ICANN is paying for it?
>>
>>On 7/3/07, Annette Muehlberg 
>><<mailto:annette.muehlberg at web.de>annette.muehlberg at web.de > wrote:
>>
>>All,
>>
>>Before we (the ALAC) handed in the proposal to hire Jean for running the
>>webtool and feeding in texts from ALAC members on our website - we were
>>told, that if she would not do any work on content but just facilitating
>>ALAC/RALO members, there would be no problem in principle to hire someone.
>>After we handed in our proposal, we were told that as soon as someone
>>working on our website is paid by ICANN (even if the work is not on
>>content) any text this person is feeding in - even if it is written by
>>ALAC/RALO members - this text would have to go through a process of
>>control by ICANN lawyers.
>>
>>This was the last of the two contradicting informations we received.
>>
>>I expected to discuss the issue of running our independent website in
>>San Juan at some point but it did not work out, so we have to do that
>>online.
>>
>>best
>>annette
>>
>>
>>Jean Armour Polly schrieb:
>>  > Hi, I'm on the list so I'm following things.
>>  > It would be interesting to know if the limericks (which I read over at
>>  > Facebook!) would even be allowed on the official ALAC site.
>>  > I have to wonder if all the ALS's and the RALOs even know that there
>>  > is a place for them on <http://icannalac.org>icannalac.org . The 
>>idea that ALAC originally
>>>  had was to create a space unfettered by ICANN legal staff that had to
>>>  vet everything going on the official ALAC site. The independent
>>>  icannalac site was paid for by At Large. It uses the content
>>>  management system Mambo and the intent was that ALAC members would
>>>  take it up where I left off last Dec. When that didn't happen, ALAC
>>>  submitted a proposal to hire me to do what I had been doing as a
>>>  member of ALAC, namely, run the ALAC's ALS voting tool and run the
>>>  independent website. Last I knew, staff had many questions about this
>>>  and since it's now been over six months, that proposal is probably a
>>>  dead issue. I have not heard anything since I was copied on the
>>>  questions.
>>>  My husband is still under contract to do the Mambo updates and
>>  > technical aspects of the site, but the site hasn't had any updates
>>>  since last Dec. Anyone with Mambo skills and interest could take over
>>>  the editorial side.The idea was that each RALO and each ALS would have
>>  > author privileges in their own areas of the site. The word is:
>>>  independent.
>>>  thanks
>>>  JP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  At 3:08 PM +0200 7/2/07, Annette Muehlberg recently said:
>>>>  Hi Evan,
>>>>
>>>>  it was great getting to know you in San Juan.
>>>>  Robin Gross asked about the limericks you guys made.
>>>>
>>>>  why not send them out on the at-large list?
>>>>
>>>>  would be great to put that on our website too. running our -independent-
>>>>  ALAC website is a real issue - which we did not solve after Jean had to
>>>>  leave (and there are some stories to tell why that is the case...). are
>>>>  you in touch with her?
>>>>
>>>>  best
>>>>  annette
>>>>
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