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    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">We already did provide
        an intervention -- at the meeting itself. The result was that
        the policy was not to be removed at the moment and that the
        definition of community networks (i.e. the demand that they be
        totally volunteer driven) should be revisited.</font></p>
    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">At least, that's how I
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    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Marita</font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/1/2017 3:02 AM, Glenn McKnight
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi  
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        <div>Leslie Noble made mention of the Community Network Policy
          Update </div>
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          <div>ARIN Removal of Community Network Policy</div>
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        <div>Perhaps we need to chat about this and be prepared to
          provide an intervention.  Perhaps led by Shelly and Marita
           who are experts on community networks </div>
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        <div>My own focus is very small community network(mesh)  <br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Glenn McKnight<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:16 PM,
          Susannah Gray <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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              <p>Hi Marita <br>
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                <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Thanks
                    Glenn. Could you elaborate (or offer a link) on the
                    reference to FIRE -- some comnet funding in place
                    for Uganda &amp; South Africa.</font></p>
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              <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">- <a
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                  href="http://www.fireafrica.org" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">www.fireafrica.org</a>. It's
                AFRINIC's grant/award program. They fund all sorts of
                projects that use the Internet to solve local ICT
                issues. The two community network projects mentioned
                are: <br>
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                Tobesta (ZA): <a
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href="https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016"
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                Bosco (Uganda): <a
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                  href="http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://fireafrica.org/grant-<wbr>awards-winners-2016</a><br>
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                      5/31/2017 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">Hi <br>
                        If you recall at the last  ARIN meeting we saw
                        many of our  NARALO members comment on the  
                        ARIN Community Networks policy 
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                        <div>See policy document </div>
                        <div><a
                            href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.arin.net/policy/<wbr>proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.<wbr>html</a></div>
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                        <div>I spoke with ARIN staff about their
                          programs on community networks  today and they
                          too are struggling with fee structure for
                          AFRNIC Membership from community networks.  
                          Note they fund  FIRE  which has funded
                          community networks in Uganda and in South
                          Africa.</div>
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                        <div>Perhaps  we need to ask our community to
                          request financial support for ARIN for
                          community networks as well.  <br>
                          Comments?<br>
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