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<p>Hi all, <br>
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<p>Perhaps we should contact the policy 'shepherds' and ask how we
can put forward a new definition for consideration. I think it
should be as simple as posting a proposed new definition to the
ARIN policy mailing list and asking the community for comments. <br>
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<p>As far as I am aware the policy has not been changed because
there was no consensus gained during ARIN39 to remove the clause
about community networks, mainly due to the comments made by the
NARALO representatives. So, the policy will be discussed again at
the next meeting in San Jose in October, and it would be a good
idea to circulate a proposed definition before then. <br>
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<p>Cheers, <br>
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<p>Susannah <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/06/2017 06:07, Marita Moll wrote:<br>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">We already did
provide an intervention -- at the meeting itself. The result
was that the policy was not to be removed at the moment and
that the definition of community networks (i.e. the demand
that they be totally volunteer driven) should be revisited.</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">At least, that's how
I remember it.</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Marita</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/1/2017 3:02 AM, Glenn McKnight
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi
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<div>Leslie Noble made mention of the Community Network Policy
Update </div>
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<div>ARIN Removal of Community Network Policy</div>
<div><a
href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_2.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_2.html</a></div>
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<div>Perhaps we need to chat about this and be prepared to
provide an intervention. Perhaps led by Shelly and Marita
who are experts on community networks </div>
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<div>My own focus is very small community network(mesh) <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:16 PM,
Susannah Gray <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<p>Hi Marita <br>
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31/05/2017 05:29, Marita Moll wrote:<br>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Thanks
Glenn. Could you elaborate (or offer a link) on
the reference to FIRE -- some comnet funding in
place for Uganda & South Africa.</font></p>
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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">- <a
class="m_2721973791879537196moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="http://www.fireafrica.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.fireafrica.org</a>. It's
AFRINIC's grant/award program. They fund all sorts of
projects that use the Internet to solve local ICT
issues. The two community network projects mentioned
are: <br>
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Tobesta (ZA): <a
class="m_2721973791879537196moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.afrinic.net/fr/<wbr>library/news/1909-fire-awards-<wbr>winners-2016</a><br>
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Bosco (Uganda): <a
class="m_2721973791879537196moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://fireafrica.org/grant-<wbr>awards-winners-2016</a><br>
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Thanks, <br>
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Susannah <br>
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5/31/2017 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi <br>
If you recall at the last ARIN meeting we saw
many of our NARALO members comment on the
ARIN Community Networks policy
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<div>See policy document </div>
<div><a
href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.arin.net/policy/<wbr>proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.<wbr>html</a></div>
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<div>I spoke with ARIN staff about their
programs on community networks today and
they too are struggling with fee structure
for AFRNIC Membership from community
networks. Note they fund FIRE which has
funded community networks in Uganda and in
South Africa.</div>
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<div>Perhaps we need to ask our community to
request financial support for ARIN for
community networks as well. <br>
Comments?<br>
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href="tel:%28289%29%20830-6259"
value="+12898306259"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">289-830
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