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<div>Dear Judith,</div>
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<div>Thank you ever so much for this Regional Advice. The ALAC Members’ vote will be set up shortly.</div>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
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<div>Nathalie</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>"<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Organization: </span>Hellerstein & Associates<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>"<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, February 22, 2016 at 4:40 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Glenn McKnight <<a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a>>, Nathalie Peregrine <<a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>NA-Discuss <<a href="mailto:na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org">na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [NA-Discuss] Seeking Regional Advice for a New ALS<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Dear Staff,<br>
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We have completed our survey of the current NARALO ALSes as regards their support of ISOC Washington DC as a new NARALO ALS. I am happy to report that over 60% of current ALSes have indicated that they support the entry of ISOC DC as a new ALS. It is with
this great support that we are recommending to ALAC that they also support the entry into NARALO of this new ALS.<br>
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Thanks for your patience<br>
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Best,<br>
Judith Hellerstein<br>
NARALO Secretary<br>
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Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
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3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/21/2016 9:34 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:<br>
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<div>Thanks everyone for their positive endorsement of the new ALS. I need to stress that Judith intentions of the due diligence was taken seriously ( given the name), but as some of you indicated that the level of 'deep dive' was out of scope. I
think this her first ALS application so we need to give her a break and we apologize for any misconceptions. In anticipation of new ALS's in 2016 ( name and location not yet determined) we aim to work closely with staff on the process and communication. </div>
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<div>Thanks for your patience.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Louis Houle <span dir="ltr">
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And I would like to share one more consideration : since the inception of NARALO, I noticed that motivation, engagement and participation of the ALs has evolved. It's normal to see newcomers and to loose some participants. What one expects is oppeness and inclusiveness,
not deep diving procedures or a timetable for a the new ALs to justify their engagement.
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<div>Le 2016-02-13 19:29, Evan Leibovitch a écrit :<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;">On 13 February 2016 at 21:57, Judith Hellerstein
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Sorry, but going forward such investigation is a complete waste of time
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<div class="gmail_default">By virtue of its application, the organization has indicated interest and answered the questions asked. Beyond that you can't read their minds or anticipate changes in leadership in the future that may shift more or less attention
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<div class="gmail_default">"Here are our minimum criteria for ALSs. Of course we would love for you to contribute more, but we require at least [....]. Are you able to commit to this?"</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">That's a yes/no question, to be answered to the best abilities of current leadership. Anything beyond that is unacceptable level of prying. Remember, one of the main points behind getting ALSs involved (as opposed to, say, members
of NCUC) is that we are encouraging orgs that don't necessarily have Internet governance as a primary focus. So we should be applauding their very interest, regardless of whether or not they will be actively involved.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">The issue of keeping a current contact list is a challenge for any organization, frankly I think that's the role of staff rather than volunteers. It can be easily automated, and the scale of doing it globally for all regions makes
the available tools quite cost effective. ICANN depends so much on volunteers that I'm stunned it doesn't have an organization-wide set of tools for this.</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">ISOC-DC is just the first ALS on this new procedure. Nothing having to do with them, just that they are the first one where we are taking a deeper dive in.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">Please stop such "deep dives". This practice will not help, and it has immense capacity to undo the good of outreach being done.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">The ability to participate in ICANN is not such a prize that we have the luxury to be so demanding of newcomers. For ALSs, the demands are many and the rewards few -- we need them more than they need us. I remind that any group
in the world can submit public comment directly to ICANN, they don't need us as a conduit. There needs to be a special reason why to participate through At-Large, and communicating this reason is the role of outreach. You don't want to undo that through needlessly
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<div class="gmail_default">The amount of time that At-Large expends examining itself -- compared to the amount of time spent actually affecting ICANN -- has always been a source of astonishment to me. As it continues to be.</div>
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