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    Dear Staff,<br>
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    We have completed our survey of the current NARALO ALSes as regards
    their support of ISOC Washington DC as a new NARALO ALS.  I am happy
    to report that over 60% of current ALSes have indicated that they
    support the entry of ISOC DC as a new ALS.  It is with this great
    support that we are recommending to ALAC that they also support the
    entry into NARALO of this new ALS.<br>
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    Thanks for your patience<br>
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    Best,<br>
    Judith Hellerstein<br>
    NARALO Secretary<br>
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Judith Hellerstein, Founder &amp; CEO
Hellerstein &amp; Associates
3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/21/2016 9:34 AM, Glenn McKnight
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi  All
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        <div>Thanks  everyone for their  positive endorsement of the new
           ALS.  I need to stress that  Judith intentions  of the  due
          diligence was taken seriously ( given the name), but as some
          of you indicated that the level of 'deep dive'  was out of
          scope.   I think this her first  ALS  application so we need
          to give her a break and we apologize for any misconceptions.  
          In anticipation of  new  ALS's in 2016 ( name and location not
          yet determined) we aim to work closely with staff on the
          process and communication. </div>
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        <div>Thanks for your patience.</div>
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        <div>Glenn</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">Glenn McKnight<br>
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                href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a><br>
              skype  gmcknight<br>
              twitter gmcknight<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Louis
          Houle <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:louis.houle@oricom.ca" target="_blank">louis.houle@oricom.ca</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> +1 Evan<br>
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              And I would like to share one more consideration : since
              the inception of NARALO, I noticed that motivation,
              engagement and participation of the ALs has evolved. It's
              normal to see newcomers and to loose some participants.
              What one expects is oppeness and inclusiveness, not deep
              diving procedures or a timetable for a the new ALs to
              justify their engagement. <br>
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              My 2 cents,<span class=""><br>
                <pre cols="72">Louis Houle
President
ISOC Quebec

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                  <div>Le 2016-02-13 19:29, Evan Leibovitch a écrit :<br>
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                        style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><span
                          style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On 13
                          February 2016 at 21:57, Judith Hellerstein </span><span
                          dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">&lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com"
                            target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">judith@jhellerstein.com</a></a>&gt;</span><span
                          style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span><br>
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                            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">So
                              going forward we want to make sure that
                              the ALS we accept will be an active
                              member.</div>
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                              <div class="gmail_default">​</div>
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                          <div><span style="font-family:'trebuchet
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                              <div class="gmail_default">​</div>
                              ​Sorry, but going forward such
                              investigation is a complete waste of time
                              <div class="gmail_default">​ and doomed to
                                failure​</div>
                              .</span><br>
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                            <div class="gmail_default">By virtue of its
                              application, the organization has
                              indicated interest and answered the
                              questions asked. Beyond that you can't
                              read their minds or anticipate changes in
                              leadership in the future that may shift
                              more or less attention away from ICANN
                              issues.</div>
                            <div class="gmail_default"><br>
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                      <span style="font-family:'trebuchet
                        ms',sans-serif">Everyone would naturally like
                        active ALSs to help share the workload, but
                        <div class="gmail_default">​you should resist ​</div>
                        anything beyond:</span>
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                            <div>
                              <div class="gmail_default">"Here are our
                                minimum criteria for ALSs. Of course we
                                would love for you to contribute more,
                                but we require at least [....]. Are you
                                able to commit to this?"</div>
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                            <div class="gmail_default"><br>
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                            <div class="gmail_default">That's a yes/no
                              question, to be answered to the best
                              abilities of current leadership. Anything
                              beyond that is unacceptable level of
                              prying. Remember, one of the main points
                              behind getting ALSs involved (as opposed
                              to, say, members of NCUC) is that we are
                              encouraging orgs that don't necessarily
                              have Internet governance as a primary
                              focus. So we should be applauding their
                              very interest, regardless of whether or
                              not they will be actively involved.</div>
                            <div class="gmail_default"><br>
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                          <div class="gmail_default">The issue of
                            keeping a current contact list is a
                            challenge for any organization, frankly I
                            think that's the role of staff rather than
                            volunteers. It can be easily automated, and
                            the scale of doing it globally for all
                            regions makes the available tools quite cost
                            effective. ICANN depends so much on
                            volunteers that I'm stunned it doesn't have
                            an organization-wide set of tools for this.</div>
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                            #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">ISOC-DC
                              is just the first ALS on this new
                              procedure.  Nothing having to do with
                              them, just that they are the first one
                              where we are taking a deeper dive in.</div>
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                            <div class="gmail_default">​Please stop such
                              "deep dives". This practice will not help,
                              and it has immense capacity to undo the
                              good of outreach being done.</div>
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                            <div class="gmail_default">​The ability to
                              participate in ICANN is not such a prize
                              that we have the luxury to be so demanding
                              of newcomers. For ALSs, the demands are
                              many and the rewards few -- we need them
                              more than they need us.​ I remind that any
                              group in the world can submit public
                              comment directly to ICANN, they don't need
                              us as a conduit. There needs to be a
                              special reason why to participate through
                              At-Large, and communicating this reason is
                              the role of outreach. You don't want to
                              undo that through needlessly invasive
                              entry procedures.</div>
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                            <div class="gmail_default">​The amount of
                              time that At-Large expends examining
                              itself -- compared to the amount of time
                              spent actually affecting ICANN -- has
                              always been a source of astonishment to
                              me. As it continues to be.</div>
                            <div class="gmail_default">​</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_default">- Evan</div>
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