<div dir="ltr">Hi All<div><br></div><div>Thanks everyone for their positive endorsement of the new ALS. I need to stress that Judith intentions of the due diligence was taken seriously ( given the name), but as some of you indicated that the level of 'deep dive' was out of scope. I think this her first ALS application so we need to give her a break and we apologize for any misconceptions. In anticipation of new ALS's in 2016 ( name and location not yet determined) we aim to work closely with staff on the process and communication. </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your patience.</div><div><br></div><div>Glenn</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Glenn McKnight<br><a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a><br>skype gmcknight<br>twitter gmcknight<br>.</div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Louis Houle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:louis.houle@oricom.ca" target="_blank">louis.houle@oricom.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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+1 Evan<br>
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And I would like to share one more consideration : since the
inception of NARALO, I noticed that motivation, engagement and
participation of the ALs has evolved. It's normal to see newcomers
and to loose some participants. What one expects is oppeness and
inclusiveness, not deep diving procedures or a timetable for a the
new ALs to justify their engagement. <br>
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<pre cols="72">Louis Houle
President
ISOC Quebec
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</span><div><div class="h5"><div>Le 2016-02-13 19:29, Evan Leibovitch a
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13 February 2016 at 21:57, Judith Hellerstein </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span><br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">So going forward we
want to make sure that the ALS we accept will be an
active member.</div>
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Sorry, but going forward such investigation is a
complete waste of time
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failure</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">By virtue of its application, the
organization has indicated interest and answered the
questions asked. Beyond that you can't read their minds
or anticipate changes in leadership in the future that
may shift more or less attention away from ICANN issues.</div>
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<span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">Everyone
would naturally like active ALSs to help share the workload,
but
<div class="gmail_default">you should resist </div>
anything beyond:</span>
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<div class="gmail_default">"Here are our minimum criteria for
ALSs. Of course we would love for you to contribute
more, but we require at least [....]. Are you able to
commit to this?"</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">That's a yes/no question, to be answered
to the best abilities of current leadership. Anything
beyond that is unacceptable level of prying. Remember,
one of the main points behind getting ALSs involved (as
opposed to, say, members of NCUC) is that we are
encouraging orgs that don't necessarily have Internet
governance as a primary focus. So we should be
applauding their very interest, regardless of whether or
not they will be actively involved.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">The issue of keeping a current contact
list is a challenge for any organization, frankly I think
that's the role of staff rather than volunteers. It can be
easily automated, and the scale of doing it globally for
all regions makes the available tools quite cost
effective. ICANN depends so much on volunteers that I'm
stunned it doesn't have an organization-wide set of tools
for this.</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">ISOC-DC is just the
first ALS on this new procedure. Nothing having to do
with them, just that they are the first one where we are
taking a deeper dive in.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">Please stop such "deep dives". This
practice will not help, and it has immense capacity to
undo the good of outreach being done.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">The ability to participate in ICANN is
not such a prize that we have the luxury to be so
demanding of newcomers. For ALSs, the demands are many
and the rewards few -- we need them more than they need
us. I remind that any group in the world can submit
public comment directly to ICANN, they don't need us as
a conduit. There needs to be a special reason why to
participate through At-Large, and communicating this
reason is the role of outreach. You don't want to undo
that through needlessly invasive entry procedures.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">The amount of time that At-Large
expends examining itself -- compared to the amount of
time spent actually affecting ICANN -- has always been a
source of astonishment to me. As it continues to be.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">- Evan</div>
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