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    +1 Evan<br>
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    And I would like to share one more consideration : since the
    inception of NARALO, I noticed that motivation, engagement and
    participation of the ALs has evolved. It's normal to see newcomers
    and to loose some participants. What one expects is oppeness and
    inclusiveness, not deep diving procedures or a timetable for a the
    new ALs to justify their engagement. <br>
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    My 2 cents,<br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Louis Houle
President
ISOC Quebec

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 2016-02-13 19:29, Evan Leibovitch a
      écrit :<br>
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          ms,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On
            13 February 2016 at 21:57, Judith Hellerstein </span><span
            dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">&lt;<a
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              href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">judith@jhellerstein.com</a></a>&gt;</span><span
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              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">So going forward we
                want to make sure that the ALS we accept will be an
                active member.</div>
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                ​Sorry, but going forward such investigation is a
                complete waste of time
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                  ms',sans-serif;display:inline">​ and doomed to
                  failure​</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet
                ms',sans-serif">By virtue of its application, the
                organization has indicated interest and answered the
                questions asked. Beyond that you can't read their minds
                or anticipate changes in leadership in the future that
                may shift more or less attention away from ICANN issues.</div>
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        <span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">Everyone
          would naturally like active ALSs to help share the workload,
          but
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet
            ms',sans-serif;display:inline">​you should resist ​</div>
          anything beyond:</span>
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet
                  ms',sans-serif">"Here are our minimum criteria for
                  ALSs. Of course we would love for you to contribute
                  more, but we require at least [....]. Are you able to
                  commit to this?"</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet
                ms',sans-serif">That's a yes/no question, to be answered
                to the best abilities of current leadership. Anything
                beyond that is unacceptable level of prying. Remember,
                one of the main points behind getting ALSs involved (as
                opposed to, say, members of NCUC) is that we are
                encouraging orgs that don't necessarily have Internet
                governance as a primary focus. So we should be
                applauding their very interest, regardless of whether or
                not they will be actively involved.</div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet
              ms',sans-serif">The issue of keeping a current contact
              list is a challenge for any organization, frankly I think
              that's the role of staff rather than volunteers. It can be
              easily automated, and the scale of doing it globally for
              all regions makes the available tools quite cost
              effective. ICANN depends so much on volunteers that I'm
              stunned it doesn't have an organization-wide set of tools
              for this.</div>
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              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">ISOC-DC is just the
                first ALS on this new procedure.  Nothing having to do
                with them, just that they are the first one where we are
                taking a deeper dive in.</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet
                ms',sans-serif">​Please stop such "deep dives". This
                practice will not help, and it has immense capacity to
                undo the good of outreach being done.</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet
                ms',sans-serif">​The ability to participate in ICANN is
                not such a prize that we have the luxury to be so
                demanding of newcomers. For ALSs, the demands are many
                and the rewards few -- we need them more than they need
                us.​ I remind that any group in the world can submit
                public comment directly to ICANN, they don't need us as
                a conduit. There needs to be a special reason why to
                participate through At-Large, and communicating this
                reason is the role of outreach. You don't want to undo
                that through needlessly invasive entry procedures.</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet
                ms',sans-serif">​The amount of time that At-Large
                expends examining itself -- compared to the amount of
                time spent actually affecting ICANN -- has always been a
                source of astonishment to me. As it continues to be.</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet
                ms',sans-serif">​</div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet
              ms',sans-serif">- Evan</div>
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