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    HI All,<br>
    <br>
    Glenn and I have spent much time cleaning up the list and also going
    through the process of decertification we want to make sure when we
    accept new ALSes we do not have the same problem.  So going forward
    we want to make sure that the ALS we accept will be an active
    member.  ISOC-DC is just the first ALS on this new procedure. 
    Nothing having to do with them, just that they are the first one
    where we are taking a deeper dive in.  Also the alternate contacts
    and email and phone numbers in the database tend to get old quickly
    and then we have to track them down.  That is a big effort and why
    we want to make sure we have all this info from the getgo.  As Glenn
    said, new processes  need to be discussed in context to the ALS
    Review process.  
    <div><br>
      Best,<br>
      Judith<br>
    </div>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="80">_________________________________________________________________________
Judith Hellerstein, Founder &amp; CEO
Hellerstein &amp; Associates
3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
E-mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com">Judith@jhellerstein.com</a>   Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.jhellerstein.com">www.jhellerstein.com</a>
Linked In: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/">www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/</a>
Opening Telecom &amp; Technology Opportunities Worldwide

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/13/2016 1:34 PM, Glenn McKnight
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAN7+85dzs+PqvFM5Kbrwk+fu5A+04fZ4aBCFwj3Zer1j42FB3w@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">I agree with Evan's comments that  the level of
        inquiry appears to be a bit evasive or or at least out of scope.
        Evan's  ALS as many of us  wear multiple hats and full
        disclosure could be misunderstood. In the defense of the process
        of deep dive inquiry I think the intention has some validity as
        to getting to know new organizations, especially as to their
        composition and group endorsement. Very importantly is the role
        of the substitute. In recent months for our engagement the
        second contacts in our database tend to be irrelevant so the
        process needs some serious rethink.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I am confident that ISOC Washington DC meets the current
          ALS due diligence. New processes  need to be discussed in
          context to the ALS Review process.  </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Glenn</div>
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          <div class="gmail_signature">
            <div dir="ltr">Glenn McKnight<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a><br>
              skype  gmcknight<br>
              twitter gmcknight<br>
              .</div>
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        </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 8:01 AM, Evan
          Leibovitch <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:evan@telly.org" target="_blank">evan@telly.org</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                ms,sans-serif">CLUE wholeheartedly supports the
                application.</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                ms,sans-serif"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                ms,sans-serif">Frankly, I am puzzled why this particular
                application demands a level of due diligence not
                expended on other applications -- down to describing
                unnamed members of the applicant involved in ICANN
                through other channels.</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                ms,sans-serif">Full disclosure: Within NARALO I am here
                representing one ALS, the Canadian Linux User Exchange.
                However, I am also a member of another ALS (GTALUG,
                though I fear I may not have renewed properly since my
                move), on the Board of Directors of a third (ISOC
                Canada), and a participant in a fourth ALS not even in
                this region (ISOC Switzerland).</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                ms,sans-serif"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                ms,sans-serif">Am I in trouble?</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                ms,sans-serif"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                ms,sans-serif">Is there a rule somewhere that demands
                only one entry point, or even considers such broad
                involvement a Bad Thing?</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                ms,sans-serif"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                ms,sans-serif">Exactly when did such cross-participation
                become an issue worth flagging?<br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                ms,sans-serif">- Evan</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On 12 February 2016 at 18:36,
                    Joly MacFie <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com">joly@punkcast.com</a></a>&gt;</span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                          style="font-size:small;display:inline">​Thanks
                          Nathalie,</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_default"
                            style="font-size:small;display:inline">In
                            this case I support the application.</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_default"
                            style="font-size:small;display:inline">joly</div>
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                            style="font-size:small;display:inline">​</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 12,
                              2016 at 3:01 AM, Nathalie Peregrine <span
                                dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nathalie.peregrine@icann.org" target="_blank">nathalie.peregrine@icann.org</a>&gt;</span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                    Dear Joly and Judith,</div>
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                                    The answer to 5d is in the
                                    application form:<span
                                      style="color:rgb(96,150,202);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px">d.
                                      Are the leaders of your
                                      organization, as individuals,
                                      involved </span><span
                                      style="color:rgb(96,150,202);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px">in

                                      other similar organizations or
                                      entities? "Yes</span></div>
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                                    style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;margin:0px">
                                    If yes, please say which ones: IGF,
                                    IGF-USA, ICANN, etc"</p>
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                                    The Youtube link is copied over two
                                    lines, and therefore needs to be
                                    copied and pasted into a browser: <span
style="color:rgb(4,47,239);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4buVHalBRoOTPG23ZZfndjPr1iHqznaa"
                                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4buVHalBRoOTPG23ZZfndjPr1iHqznaa">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4buVHalBRoOTPG23ZZfndjPr1iHqznaa</a></a></span></div>
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                                  <div><font face="Helvetica"><span
                                        style="font-size:12px">I</span></font><font
                                      style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"
                                      face="Helvetica"><span
                                        style="font-size:12px"> hope
                                        this helps!</span></font></div>
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                                  <div><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"
                                      face="Helvetica"><span
                                        style="font-size:12px">Nathalie</span></font></div>
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                                      <span style="font-weight:bold">From:
                                      </span>&lt;<a
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                                        href="mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
                                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a></a>&gt;
                                      on behalf of "<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com"
                                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">judith@jhellerstein.com</a></a>"
                                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com"
                                        target="_blank">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                      <span style="font-weight:bold">Date:
                                      </span>Friday, February 12, 2016
                                      at 8:38 AM<br>
                                      <span style="font-weight:bold">To:
                                      </span>"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com"
                                        target="_blank">joly@punkcast.com</a>"
                                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com"
                                        target="_blank">joly@punkcast.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                      <span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:
                                      </span>NA-Discuss &lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
                                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org">na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a></a>&gt;<br>
                                      <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:
                                      </span>Re: [NA-Discuss] Seeking
                                      Regional Advice for a New ALS<br>
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                                            <div>Hi Joly,</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Thanks for your
                                              comments. As we found out
                                              there is no way to amend
                                              the application so we
                                              added an amendment. We had
                                              seen several missing
                                              pieces and flagged several
                                              for questions to the
                                              applicant. We will notate
                                              this for our records. We
                                              will be writing a paper to
                                              give to Holly about
                                              changes we would like to
                                              see on the application so
                                              if you or others have any
                                              suggestion please do let
                                              us know.</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Best,</div>
                                            <div>Judith <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Sent from my iPhone</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                              On Feb 12, 2016, at 1:34
                                              AM, Joly MacFie &lt;<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com"
                                                target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com">joly@punkcast.com</a></a>&gt;
                                              wrote:<br>
                                              <br>
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                                                    class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small">In the application, not that it matters much,
                                                    there is no answer
                                                    to 5 d)  and the
                                                    YouTube playlist
                                                    cited in 6 c) is not
                                                    found.</div>
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style="font-size:small">​j​</div>
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                                                  <div
                                                    class="gmail_quote">On
                                                    Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at
                                                    5:30 PM, Judith
                                                    Hellerstein <span
                                                      dir="ltr">
                                                      &lt;<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">judith@jhellerstein.com</a></a>&gt;</span>
                                                    wrote:<br>
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                                                        text="#000000">Hi
                                                        ALSes,<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        We are seeking
                                                        Regional Advice
                                                        for a new ALS,
                                                        The Great
                                                        Washington DC
                                                        Internet Society
                                                        has applied to
                                                        be an ALS in
                                                        NARALO.  I am
                                                        sending their
                                                        application to
                                                        you along with
                                                        an addendum for
                                                        regional
                                                        advice.  As
                                                        Glenn and I
                                                        discovered there
                                                        are many
                                                        problems with
                                                        the current
                                                        application
                                                        process
                                                        especially as
                                                        you can not
                                                        amend the
                                                        application to
                                                        add in
                                                        additional
                                                        information. As
                                                        such we are
                                                        attaching an
                                                        addendum.  I
                                                        have also added
                                                        some notes to
                                                        the
                                                        application. 
                                                        Additionally,
                                                        the group has
                                                        Organization
                                                        Members who
                                                        provide
                                                        financial
                                                        support to the
                                                        organization and
                                                        have seats on
                                                        the Council.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Also for
                                                        transparency
                                                        purposes we add
                                                        that the
                                                        Washington DC
                                                        ISOC chapter is
                                                        also involved
                                                        with another
                                                        ICANN
                                                        constituency,
                                                        they are a
                                                        member of NPOC.
                                                        However, there
                                                        is no real place
                                                        on the
                                                        application for
                                                        to show this. 
                                                        Additionally, as
                                                        their by-laws
                                                        state
                                                        <span> </span><span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.isoc-dc.org/by-laws-2015/"
                                                          target="_blank"><span
style="color:blue"></span></a><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://www.isoc-dc.org/by-laws-2015/"
target="_blank">http://www.isoc-dc.org/by-laws-2015/</a></span> , the
                                                        Executive
                                                        Director is a
                                                        paid position.
                                                        Remuneration
                                                        amounts were not
                                                        provided. My
                                                        hope is always
                                                        that all new
                                                        ALSes that join
                                                        NARALO will
                                                        become actively
                                                        involved and
                                                        join several
                                                        working groups
                                                        and committees.
                                                        Additionally one
                                                        of their Council
                                                        Members, Stephen
                                                        Miller is an
                                                        ICANN staff
                                                        member. Another
                                                        Council member
                                                        is already
                                                        heavily engaged
                                                        with NARALO
                                                        under a separate
                                                        ALS. She has
                                                        indicated to me
                                                        that she prefers
                                                        to  remain
                                                        active with that
                                                        ALS and not with
                                                        ISOC DC.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Please do let me
                                                        know by the end
                                                        of next week if
                                                        you support
                                                        having this
                                                        group join as an
                                                        ALS member. When
                                                        you write me,
                                                        please state the
                                                        ALS you are
                                                        representing to
                                                        we can have an
                                                        accurate count. 
                                                        I look forward
                                                        to hearing from
                                                        you.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Best Regards,<br>
                                                        Judith
                                                        Hellerstein<br>
                                                        NARALO Secretary<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
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_________________________________________________________________________
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Hellerstein &amp; Associates
3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
Phone: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%28202%29%20362-5139" value="+12023625139" target="_blank">(202) 362-5139</a>  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
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                        <div style="text-align:left">Sk: evanleibovitch</div>
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                        <div style="text-align:left">Tw: el56</div>
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