[NA-Discuss] Seeking Regional Advice for a New ALS

Mon Feb 22 16:06:52 UTC 2016

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On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Judith Hellerstein <
judith at jhellerstein.com> wrote:

> Dear Staff,
>
> We have completed our survey of the current NARALO ALSes as regards their
> support of ISOC Washington DC as a new NARALO ALS.  I am happy to report
> that over 60% of current ALSes have indicated that they support the entry
> of ISOC DC as a new ALS.  It is with this great support that we are
> recommending to ALAC that they also support the entry into NARALO of this
> new ALS.
>
> Thanks for your patience
>
> Best,
> Judith Hellerstein
> NARALO Secretary
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> On 2/21/2016 9:34 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
>
> Hi  All
>
> Thanks  everyone for their  positive endorsement of the new  ALS.  I need
> to stress that  Judith intentions  of the  due diligence was taken
> seriously ( given the name), but as some of you indicated that the level of
> 'deep dive'  was out of scope.   I think this her first  ALS  application
> so we need to give her a break and we apologize for any misconceptions.
> In anticipation of  new  ALS's in 2016 ( name and location not yet
> determined) we aim to work closely with staff on the process and
> communication.
>
> Thanks for your patience.
>
> Glenn
>
> Glenn McKnight
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> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Louis Houle <louis.houle at oricom.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> +1 Evan
>>
>> And I would like to share one more consideration : since the inception of
>> NARALO, I noticed that motivation, engagement and participation of the ALs
>> has evolved. It's normal to see newcomers and to loose some participants.
>> What one expects is oppeness and inclusiveness, not deep diving procedures
>> or a timetable for a the new ALs to justify their engagement.
>>
>> My 2 cents,
>>
>> Louis Houle
>> President
>> ISOC Quebec
>>
>>
>> Le 2016-02-13 19:29, Evan Leibovitch a écrit :
>>
>> On 13 February 2016 at 21:57, Judith Hellerstein <
>> <judith at jhellerstein.com>judith at jhellerstein.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So going forward we want to make sure that the ALS we accept will be an
>>> active member.
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry, but going forward such investigation is a complete waste of time
>>  and doomed to failure
>> .
>>
>> By virtue of its application, the organization has indicated interest and
>> answered the questions asked. Beyond that you can't read their minds or
>> anticipate changes in leadership in the future that may shift more or less
>> attention away from ICANN issues.
>>
>> Everyone would naturally like active ALSs to help share the workload, but
>> you should resist 
>> anything beyond:
>>
>>
>> "Here are our minimum criteria for ALSs. Of course we would love for you
>> to contribute more, but we require at least [....]. Are you able to commit
>> to this?"
>>
>>
>> That's a yes/no question, to be answered to the best abilities of current
>> leadership. Anything beyond that is unacceptable level of prying. Remember,
>> one of the main points behind getting ALSs involved (as opposed to, say,
>> members of NCUC) is that we are encouraging orgs that don't necessarily
>> have Internet governance as a primary focus. So we should be applauding
>> their very interest, regardless of whether or not they will be actively
>> involved.
>>
>> The issue of keeping a current contact list is a challenge for any
>> organization, frankly I think that's the role of staff rather than
>> volunteers. It can be easily automated, and the scale of doing it globally
>> for all regions makes the available tools quite cost effective. ICANN
>> depends so much on volunteers that I'm stunned it doesn't have an
>> organization-wide set of tools for this.
>>
>>
>>> ISOC-DC is just the first ALS on this new procedure.  Nothing having to
>>> do with them, just that they are the first one where we are taking a deeper
>>> dive in.
>>>
>>
>> Please stop such "deep dives". This practice will not help, and it has
>> immense capacity to undo the good of outreach being done.
>>
>> The ability to participate in ICANN is not such a prize that we have the
>> luxury to be so demanding of newcomers. For ALSs, the demands are many and
>> the rewards few -- we need them more than they need us. I remind that any
>> group in the world can submit public comment directly to ICANN, they don't
>> need us as a conduit. There needs to be a special reason why to participate
>> through At-Large, and communicating this reason is the role of outreach.
>> You don't want to undo that through needlessly invasive entry procedures.
>>
>> The amount of time that At-Large expends examining itself -- compared to
>> the amount of time spent actually affecting ICANN -- has always been a
>> source of astonishment to me. As it continues to be.
>> 
>> - Evan
>>
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