[NA-Discuss] Suspension of Posting Privileges for Eric Brunner Williams
alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Sat Jun 22 14:16:49 UTC 2013
Kieren, I do not wish to wade into this morass,
but I will correct two errors in fact:
- As the person who must track unaffiliated
members so that I can carry out my function as
their voting representative, I can say that Eric
is not an unaffiliated member of NARALO.
- The process of rectifying this has nothing to
do with ALS certification, but requires that he
send a simple three line e-mail which for reasons
unknown to me he has not done although informed of the procedures.
At 6/21/2013 10:29 PM, Kieren McCarthy wrote:
>So, to recap:
>During elections, someone who says they wish to stand for chair is:
>* Told they insulted someone two months earlier
>* Suspended from posting to an open list
>* Told that their credentials are not correct
>* Informed that they are not eligible to stand for chair
>In order to be allowed to continue, this person is told to:
>* Apologize for a message that so far no one has been able to ascertain who
>it is and what he should be apologizing for
>* To resubmit his ALS application - which presumably would push him past
>the election time
>When this series of events is questioned by other members of the community,
>we learn the following:
>* All the decisions made were made by the Chair and Secretary with some
>level of consultation with the ALAC chair
>* That it was a "really hard" decision and that those three people are
>committed to open discussion, despite the clear evidence otherwise
>When no less than four community members continue to question the process,
>the response is that these three people stand by their decision. No other
>information is provided.
>So, some questions:
>* Who exactly did Eric Brunner-Williams insult and by saying what? No one
>on this list has seen any evidence of it.
>* When exactly did the NARALO chair and secretary get to decide they could
>introduce arbitrary conditions for membership of the organization?
>* Where are these discussions documented and why did the parties in
>question not use the Ombudsman process rather than decide between
>themselves what the appropriate action was?
>* Why do "elected" NARALO representatives feel that they do not have to
>respond to the clear concerns expressed by the community they are there to
>This is really poor even for the low standards set by NARALO.
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>On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > as Chair of the ALAC, I am always concerned about a breaking of the
> > inclusive atmosphere in any part of our community.
> > One such cause is the writing of ad-hominem accusations on the list.
> > This ends up being archived, picked up by search engines and ultimately
> > makes everybody look bad.
> > I too am sad that it had to come to this - but we are all grown up
> > people here and we do not need to pick at each other personally. I
> > understand sometimes that debates and discussions can get out of hand.
> > But offending other people is not the way that we'll manage to better
> > channel the points of view of Internet users into the ICANN process -
> > and it is not the way we'll encourage more people to get involved and to
> > contribute, because a hostile atmosphere will scare them away.
> > For this reason, Garth had my full support for his actions that he had
> > to take as NARALO Chair.
> > If Eric feels he has been unfairly treated, the Ombudsman is indeed a
> > possible avenue for appeal.
> > Best regards,
> > Olivier Crépin-Leblond
> > ALAC Chair
> > On 21/06/2013 17:07, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
> > > Our Chair can add conditions to re-instatement before a person is
> > allowed back on the list. This particular case was discussed with the ALAC
> > Chair as well as the NARALO leadership and this course was accepted. The
> > Code of Conduct is a document that was agreed to by the NARALO. This
> > action was also not taken upon just one instance of a violation of the Code
> > of Conduct. This was the third time showing a pattern of abuse. Garth
> > really did not want to take this action because of the perception of a
> > "rival to his position" being silenced. However, as Chair, he did have to
> > take action because this was about abuse of our members.
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> > Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
> > http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
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