[NA-Discuss] The status of ALSes

Garth Bruen gbruen at knujon.com
Mon Jun 10 15:59:16 UTC 2013

Placed in item 5.7 for today:

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On 6/8/13 8:42 PM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
> If we are going to put the the ALS's under the microsope then we need 
> to go further  and look how active these members are as to  working 
> groups, voting patterns and active involvement.  This should 
> definitely be our  yardstick for anyone looking to representing NARALO.

While I don't disagree that engagement is a good, and possibly the best
indicator of an At-Large Structure's realization of the commitments made
upon application for that status, and a reasonable measure for individuals
affiliated with ALSes as representatives of the NARALO, it is possible to
directly test each of each ALSes several commitments, which is the subject
of my two original notes on this subject, and a spreadsheet and explanatory
notes I'll be sending to Staff and the NA-Discuss list later today, and a
measure of ALS member activity could not individuals not affiliated with

Something along the lines of what you've proposed was presented at the Paris
ICANN meeting, disclosing, if memory serves, that the recorded votes of the
Business Constituency members of the GNSO Council and the recorded votes of
the Internet Service Provider Constituency members of the GNSO Council
corollated with the recorded votes of the Intellectual Property
Constituency, and, that very few proposals leading to recorded votes on
policy development originated from either of the Business or Internet
Service Provider Constituency.

My take-away at the time, and I'd been observing GNSO Council meetings in
2000-2005 and 2007-2009 (year of the Paris meeting), was that real numbers
had been put to what was obvious -- the IPC had captured the BC and ISPC,
leading to the polarization and gridlock later rationalized in the "reform"
creating a Contracted Parties House and a Non-Contracted Parties House, with
their polarization and gridlock formalized.

I do wish to point out that putting "the ALS's under the microscope"
is not something that only "we" can do. The records are public, anyone can
study them, as I have, and as was done previously, see the Survey of 2010 as
another approach to the available data.

Eric Brunner-Williams
Eugene, Oregon
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