[NA-Discuss] Dotless domains

Evan Leibovitch evan at telly.org
Mon Jun 10 15:05:54 UTC 2013

Given that the subject was only first raised yesterday, I would suggest
having this, at best, as "if time allows" at the end of today's agenda --
and even then just as an introduction. It looks like there's already a full
plate and this one may need more discussion.

I'm happy to collaborate with others -- Robert and Eric especially -- on
crafting a concise statement that reflects NARALO's concerns, to be
endorsed by the region. I would be happy to submit such a statement to the
ALAC for consideration as globally-approved advice to the Board. If that is
considered of value I would ask Staff ASAP to create an appropriate wiki
page for its development.

We could also request an informational webinar for global At-Large that
could offer the PoVs expressed above, perhaps as well as those (if we can
find them) who support dotless domains as an innovation in the public
interest that addresses the SSAC053 concerns.

But that wouldn't be ready today. ;-)

On 10 June 2013 09:52, Garth Bruen <gbruen at knujon.com> wrote:

> Will add to call agenda
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> [mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Thompson,
> Darlene
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> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Dotless domains
> Thank you SO much for this "dotless domains for dummies" explanations!
> Thank you all for your postings as this helps all of us that aren't up on
> this topic.
> D
> Darlene A. Thompson
> Community Access Program Administrator
> Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP
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> From: John R. Levine [mailto:johnl at iecc.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 12:50 AM
> To: Thompson, Darlene; Evan Leibovitch
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> Subject: RE: [NA-Discuss] Dotless domains
> > To try to understand this issue:  why were dotless domains ruled out of
> the new gTLD expansion?  What is the problem with them?
> The SSAC 053 report describes the issues pretty well.  The short
> explanation
> is that for the past zillion years (in Internet time) the only use of
> dotless names has been private use on internal networks, and there's a lot
> of software that assumes that's what they are.  Adding global dotless
> domains would be really flaky.
> Typical example:
> http://blah/
> means a local host called blah, not the .blah domain.
> The GAC objected to Google's having .search as a private domain, so Google
> concocted a dotless hack and sent it to ICANN, who are currently scratching
> their heads.  There are several other applicants for .search so even if
> ICANN were to decide Google's application was OK, they'd still have to slug
> it out with the other applicants.
> Regards,
> John Levine, johnl at iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for
> Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail.
> http://jl.ly
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