[NA-Discuss] The status of ALSes

[Joly MacFie]

Personally I believe the problem isn't with the ALS's we've got but
with the ones we haven't got. We need more.

On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Eric Brunner-Williams
<ebw at abenaki.wabanaki.net> wrote:
> Avri,
>
>> Interesting exercise.
>
> s/Interesting/Depressing/.
>
>> And a useful one if we ever ...
>
> Well, I wouldn't suggest that it is necessarily lacking utility until
> some condition not yet present ripens. That would imply that all prior
> efforts to understand the problem were necessarily futile, when they
> may have just been made so through inaction. See below.
>
>> Or do we already have something like this and I just have not looked in the right place.
>
> You might look in the "NARALO Secretariat Monthly Reports", one exists
> for the previous five months of 2013, two exist for the 12 months of
> 2012, with no reference to ALS inactivity for in these three actual of
> eighteen possible reports.
>
> In a segment of the single report for 2011 dated July 18, the
> following reference appears:
>
> "1.  The issue of non-performing ALSs was put to the group.  It is
> being undertaken by the Secretariats group and Darlene will keep
> everyone posted on this."
>
> In the same report, in a segment dated June 13, 2011, the following
> reference appears:
>
> "3.  The issue of non-performing ALSs was discussed.  A comparison was
> made to the efforts that EURALO has made.  It was noted that we do
> have mechanisms in place so that non-performing ALSs do not affect our
> quorum.  Alan is going to research this further and post it to the list."
>
> In a segment of the single report for 2010 dated July 12, 2010, the
> following reference appears:
>
> "4.  The topic of Inreach to existing non-active ALSs was discussed as
> well as follow-up activities resulting from the ALS survey."
>
> In the same report, in a segment dated  "March", the following
> reference appears:
>
> "One thing that was identified as a need for our region was the need
> to do “in-reach”. We have ALSs that used to be quite active that we
> hardly hear from any more."
>
> There are no prior "NARALO Secretariat Monthly Reports" at this URL.
>
>> As for how each of the ALS organizes itself internally, and the means by which they make decisions regarding ALS stuff, I tend towards subsidiarity.
>
> Within the constraints of the responsibilities stated on each of the
> Memorandizing Parties, I agree. However, absent a specific waiver of
> these responsibilities of those Parties in breach, or a general waiver
> of these responsibilities relieving all Parties of breach, or an
> uncontested public general repudiation of these responsibilities by
> the breaching Parties, these responsibilities appear to remain binding.
>
>> Except of course for the individuals-ALS, their processes for self organization and decision making should be discussed by the RALO generally, though I do think it should be their decision which the RALO vets.
>
> Again, the responsibilities stated on each of the Memorandizing
> Parties cannot be presumed to be fictive and the subsequent rules and
> procedures -- the NARALO Operating Principles of 2007, revised 3
> October 2010, may not substantively alter these original responsibilities.
>
> Eric Brunner-Williams
> Eugene, Oregon
>
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