[NA-Discuss] Building consensus on dealing with the election tie
Thompson, Darlene
DThompson1 at GOV.NU.CA
Sat Jul 27 19:18:28 UTC 2013
Thank you Bob,
Along this line, when NARALO was still new and nobody really knew what they were doing, Luc and I did just fine sharing responsibilities. We e-mailed back and forth a lot and just decided between us who would do what. It was pretty easy.
NARALO has now grown a lot, as have the people within it. Each person brings their own talents and skills to the table. I think that Glenn and my talents are diverse enough that we should be able to divvy up the workload and actually be able to grow more initiatives for the region - each taking the lead in what they prefer or where their skills are. I am quite flexible and would, of course, do everything I can to make it work - as I always do. I do not think that we need the job to be "codified" as it is constantly changing as per the needs of the group.
Having said that, I would also be in favour of the tie-breaker solution offered by the 3 ALAC members but my preference will always be to try to grow and expand the talent pool in the region.
D
Darlene A. Thompson
CAP Administrator
N-CAP/Department of Education
P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
Phone: (867) 975-5631
Fax: (867) 975-5610
dthompson at gov.nu.ca
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Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:24 PM
To: Thomas Lowenhaupt
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Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Building consensus on dealing with the election tie
Hi,
Darlene has been at this job for long enough to know what to do. I expect
that she and Glenn could figure out how to share the responsibilities,
then let us know. They are both reasonable adults. If there is a problem,
I am sure the Chair could be helpful in settling it.
--bob
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013, Thomas Lowenhaupt wrote:
> I think the shared responsibility can work. But we must define specific
> responsibilities and metrics for each co-secretary. These metrics will be
> quite helpful when the next election comes along, at least in evaluating the
> performance of the cos.
>
> Tom Lowenhaupt
>
>
>
> On 7/27/2013 11:37 AM, Skuce, Allan wrote:
>> I still prefer #3. What an opportunity to grow, lead by example, and deal
>> with the great workload. Cheers, Allan
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Dharma Dailey
>> <dharma.dailey at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Have we reached clarity on whether folks feel the job can be shared? The
>>> last message from Glenn, I recall, was along the lines of "looking into
>>> it." It might be easier on all parties if some of the details were
>>> discussed before hand so no one is surprised re: who is doing what.
>>>
>>> Dharma
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 6:44 PM, "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson1 at GOV.NU.CA>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to encourage all NARALO members to consider the options
>>> that Evan has posited below and respond to same. Without consensus we
>>> cannot move forward on this issue.
>>>> Thank you for your time on this!
>>>>
>>>> D
>>>>
>>>> Darlene A. Thompson
>>>> CAP Administrator
>>>> N-CAP/Department of Education
>>>> P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
>>>> Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
>>>> Phone: (867) 975-5631
>>>> Fax: (867) 975-5610
>>>> dthompson at gov.nu.ca
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [
>>> na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Evan Leibovitch [
>>> evan at telly.org]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:44 PM
>>>> To: NARALO Discussion List
>>>> Subject: [NA-Discuss] Building consensus on dealing with the election tie
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to suggest conducting a poll of NARALO members on the best
>>> way
>>>> to deal with the tie for Secretariat resulting from the recently-held
>>> vote.
>>>> While we need to revise our regulations regarding tie-breaking, we have
>>> an
>>>> immediate need to resolve the current situation before the next ICANN
>>>> meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Based on discussions I have heard to date, there are three paths to
>>>> resolving this that have received some interest:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Random tie-break
>>>> The votes for ALSs and unaffiliated members is re-held, and the rules
>>>> are modified. If another tie results, the tie is broken by a random
>>> method,
>>>> supervised by at least two non-candidate members and/or At-Large
>>>> staff.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Tie-break by NA-Region ALAC members
>>>> The votes for ALSs and unaffiliated members is re-held and he rules
>>>> are
>>>> modified. If another tie results, the tie is broken by a consensus
>>> achieved
>>>> in private by the three ALAC members for North America (Alan, Eduardo
>>> and
>>>> myself). Since there are three of us, no deadlock is allowed there
>>>>
>>>> 3. Shared Secretariat
>>>> No new election is held, and NARALO declares both Darlene and Glenn as
>>>> co-Secretariats. While there is no precedent for this in NARALO, there
>>> is
>>>> elsewhere in ICANN At-Large (both co-Chair and co-Secretariats have
>>> been
>>>> done in other regions). The two would alternate travel to ICANN
>>> meetings
>>>> (though both would naturally be at the Summit in London). In the case
>>> that
>>>> any of the North American At-Large leadership cannot attend a meeting
>>>> (Chair, travel-designated secretariat or ALAC member), the
>>> "non-travelling"
>>>> secretariat member would automatically be designated to take that
>>> travel
>>>> allocation. The rules may still be modified in case of future ties,
>>>> but
>>>> such action is not required immediately.
>>>>
>>>> So I am proposing that, in advance of the next NARALO call, we could do
>>> an
>>>> informal poll of members (by Bigpulse or Doodle) to gain a sense of
>>>> preferences between these options that may help guide a regional
>>> consensus
>>>> on the August call.
>>>>
>>>> Is this a workable plan? Are the options above a valid representation of
>>>> the ones discussed? (There are some other tie-break methods I have
>>>> eliminated because of lack of support to date).
>>>>
>>>> I admit that when I started thinking about the tie I had not given any
>>>> thought to the shared secretariat idea, but it has grown on me since.
>>> There
>>>> is a significant amount of work to do, and it would be IMO a shame to
>>> force
>>>> an all-or-nothing tiebreak on two people with both popular support and an
>>>> eagerness to do the job.
>>>>
>>>> - Evan
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