[NA-Discuss] VOTE RESULTS: 2013 NARALO Secretary Selection

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Tue Jul 23 17:42:02 UTC 2013


I need to look at Garth's report before answering...

At 23/07/2013 01:13 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>Alan, would a statement from the ALAC have any effect on the ATRT2 
>investigation of this? Is it aware how many cases have been closed 
>without resolution?
>
>
>On 23 July 2013 13:03, Alan Greenberg 
><<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:
>This was not a new announcement but a re-affirmation that the 
>reporting structure would continue as the gTLD structure is cleaved 
>off. It is a relationship that the ATRT-2 is looking at carefully in 
>its review of the WHOIS RT implementation review.
>
>Alan
>
>
>At 23/07/2013 12:17 PM, Bob Bruen wrote:
>Hi Evan,
>
>He made the same announcement when he first took office. I guess 
>somehow he forgot that or lost the reporting chain.
>
>            --bob
>
>
>On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>
>Fadi made a specific point that Complance will report directly to him
>during the speech in which he announced the spin off of the gTLD
>expansion into a separate division.
>
>It's probably time for the ALAC to issue specific advice to the Board and
>CEO to take care of this backlog. Copy to ATRT2, as IMO this is a massive
>accountability issue.
>
>I propose us collectively writing such a formal statement of advice, to be
>agreed to by NARALO consensus and then advanced to ALAC (which I would
>commit to do).
>
>
>
>On 23 July 2013 11:52, Garth Bruen 
><<mailto:gbruen at knujon.com>gbruen at knujon.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks Danny, it's actually even worse than most are aware of. Hope to have
>more details soon.
>
>
>
>From: Danny Younger [mailto:dannyyounger at yahoo.com]
>Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:51 PM
>To: Garth Bruen; 'Kieren McCarthy'; 
><mailto:na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] VOTE RESULTS: 2013 NARALO Secretary Selection
>
>
>
>Garth,
>
>Thanks for the update.  Having read your report and having noted the June
>Compliance update (1892 complaints - 4 enforcement actions), it's fairly
>clear that the primary function of the Compliance department is two-fold:
>(1) citing registrars for "Failure to pay past due accreditation fees
>pursuant to Section 3.9 of the RAA" and (2) sweeping everything else under
>the rug.
>
>I appreciate your ongoing efforts to deal with this matter.
>
>Danny Younger
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>From: Garth Bruen <<mailto:gbruen at knujon.com>gbruen at knujon.com>
>To: 'Kieren McCarthy' 
><<mailto:kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>;
><mailto:na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:15 PM
>Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] VOTE RESULTS: 2013 NARALO Secretary Selection
>
>
>Kieren,
>
>Thanks for the comment. Our elections are critical and getting them right
>is
>even more important.
>
>As far as reporting goes I would like to draw your attention to this
>document: 
><http://www.knujon.com/icann_compliance_2012.pdf>http://www.knujon.com/icann_compliance_2012.pdf
><http://www.knujon.com/icann_compliance_2012.pdf> which shows that
>ICANN's internal compliance function is essentially non-functional
>regardless of recently published data by ICANN. This was a follow up to a
>report sent directly to the CEO
>(
><http://www.icann.org/en/news/correspondence/bruen-to-chehade-22apr13-en.pdf>http://www.icann.org/en/news/correspondence/bruen-to-chehade-22apr13-en.pdf
>) which has not been responded to.
>
>ICANN is failing the public At-Large and won't discuss these core concerns,
>has been completely silent on them. I think you can help by raising your
>voice to ask about them as well from within our community.
>
>There is a very long report log here:
>
><https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Durban+Meeting+Reports+>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Durban+Meeting+Reports+
>Workspace which is being constantly updated by At-Large representatives,
>even remote ones. Working groups regularly give reports on our monthly
>calls. We'd love to have you come on and give your perspective, let me
>know.
>
>So, it's not really a question of reporting from At-Large, it's more of a
>question of why we have to leave our families and travel thousands of miles
>just to be ignored by ICANN. It's really not that much fun. If the problems
>could be solved and questions answered, we wouldn't have to go at all.
>
>-Garth
>
>
>
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>From: 
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>[mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Kieren
>McCarthy
>Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 11:09 PM
>To: 
><mailto:na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] VOTE RESULTS: 2013 NARALO Secretary Selection
>
>I wish as much time, energy and effort had gone into informing us about the
>meeting you were paid as our representatives to attend last week in Durban
>as has been out into bickering about voting procedures.
>
>
>Kieren
>
>
>[from mobile device]
>
>On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Alan Greenberg 
><<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>wrote:
>
>Tom,
>
>I presume that by "incumbent" you mean people in office such as the ALAC
>
>members or ALAC Chair (usually it is used referring to the person who is in
>office but is in a contested election).
>
>I guess our experiences are different. Certainly someone who is part of a
>
>current organization is familiar with the others who may be in a contested
>election. But KNOW is definitely not the same as TRUST and not infrequently
>KNOW is synonymous with wanting someone new. (And I am not implying
>anything
>about the people in the current election).
>
>Alan
>
>At 21/07/2013 02:34 PM, 
><mailto:toml at communisphere.com>toml at communisphere.com wrote:
>Alan,
>
>What I am trying to say is that incumbents will better know and trust a
>
>known player. Amopholy (sp?), might describe the human response that Option
>4 draws upon. There are both good and bad associated with this. Random is
>life.
>
>Best,
>
>T9m Lowenhaupt
>
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