[NA-Discuss] VOTE RESULTS: 2013 NARALO Secretary Selection

Tue Jul 23 16:12:38 UTC 2013

Fadi made a specific point that Complance will report directly to him
during the speech in which he announced the spin off of the gTLD
mess^H^H^H^Hexpansion into a separate division.

It's probably time for the ALAC to issue specific advice to the Board and
CEO to take care of this backlog. Copy to ATRT2, as IMO this is a massive
accountability issue.

I propose us collectively writing such a formal statement of advice, to be
agreed to by NARALO consensus and then advanced to ALAC (which I would
commit to do).

On 23 July 2013 11:52, Garth Bruen <gbruen at knujon.com> wrote:

> Thanks Danny, it's actually even worse than most are aware of. Hope to have
> more details soon.
>
>
>
> From: Danny Younger [mailto:dannyyounger at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:51 PM
> To: Garth Bruen; 'Kieren McCarthy'; na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] VOTE RESULTS: 2013 NARALO Secretary Selection
>
>
>
> Garth,
>
> Thanks for the update.  Having read your report and having noted the June
> Compliance update (1892 complaints - 4 enforcement actions), it's fairly
> clear that the primary function of the Compliance department is two-fold:
> (1) citing registrars for "Failure to pay past due accreditation fees
> pursuant to Section 3.9 of the RAA" and (2) sweeping everything else under
> the rug.
>
> I appreciate your ongoing efforts to deal with this matter.
>
> Danny Younger
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: Garth Bruen <gbruen at knujon.com>
> To: 'Kieren McCarthy' <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>;
> na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] VOTE RESULTS: 2013 NARALO Secretary Selection
>
>
> Kieren,
>
> Thanks for the comment. Our elections are critical and getting them right
> is
> even more important.
>
> As far as reporting goes I would like to draw your attention to this
> document: http://www.knujon.com/icann_compliance_2012.pdf
> <http://www.knujon.com/icann_compliance_2012.pdf> which shows that
> ICANN's internal compliance function is essentially non-functional
> regardless of recently published data by ICANN. This was a follow up to a
> report sent directly to the CEO
> (
> http://www.icann.org/en/news/correspondence/bruen-to-chehade-22apr13-en.pdf
> ) which has not been responded to.
>
> ICANN is failing the public At-Large and won't discuss these core concerns,
> has been completely silent on them. I think you can help by raising your
> voice to ask about them as well from within our community.
>
> There is a very long report log here:
>
> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Durban+Meeting+Reports+
> Workspace which is being constantly updated by At-Large representatives,
> even remote ones. Working groups regularly give reports on our monthly
> calls. We'd love to have you come on and give your perspective, let me
> know.
>
> So, it's not really a question of reporting from At-Large, it's more of a
> question of why we have to leave our families and travel thousands of miles
> just to be ignored by ICANN. It's really not that much fun. If the problems
> could be solved and questions answered, we wouldn't have to go at all.
>
> -Garth
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Kieren
> McCarthy
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 11:09 PM
> To: na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] VOTE RESULTS: 2013 NARALO Secretary Selection
>
> I wish as much time, energy and effort had gone into informing us about the
> meeting you were paid as our representatives to attend last week in Durban
> as has been out into bickering about voting procedures.
>
>
> Kieren
>
>
> [from mobile device]
>
> On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Tom,
> >
> > I presume that by "incumbent" you mean people in office such as the ALAC
> members or ALAC Chair (usually it is used referring to the person who is in
> office but is in a contested election).
> >
> > I guess our experiences are different. Certainly someone who is part of a
> current organization is familiar with the others who may be in a contested
> election. But KNOW is definitely not the same as TRUST and not infrequently
> KNOW is synonymous with wanting someone new. (And I am not implying
> anything
> about the people in the current election).
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > At 21/07/2013 02:34 PM, toml at communisphere.com wrote:
> >> Alan,
> >>
> >> What I am trying to say is that incumbents will better know and trust a
> known player. Amopholy (sp?), might describe the human response that Option
> 4 draws upon. There are both good and bad associated with this. Random is
> life.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> T9m Lowenhaupt
> >
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