[NA-Discuss] Building consensus on dealing with the election tie

Houle Louis Louis.Houle at isocquebec.org
Fri Aug 2 22:00:34 UTC 2013


Good point , coach!

Louis Houle
Président
La Société Internet du Québec (ISOC Québec)
Louis.Houle at isocquebec.org

Le 2013-07-26 08:32, Glenn McKnight a écrit :
> On the issue of working together.  This is  an interesting take on the
> solution.  I have never seen such a solution before but it has merit,
> especially if it repeats another tie
>
> My problem is the job duties since they are not codified and documented and
> it will  require work to delegate which tasks are assigned to whom.
>
> I spoke with Garth briefly on this and he will be following up as well.
>
> Glenn
>
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> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Eduardo Diaz
> <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I suggest a litle variation:
>>
>> Let both secretariat work in conjunction while the rules are changed and a
>> new vote is taken. If there ia another tie, then we can do as Evan has
>> suggested.
>>
>> -ed
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I would like to suggest conducting a poll of NARALO members on the best
>> way
>>> to deal with the tie for Secretariat resulting from the recently-held
>> vote.
>>> While we need to revise our regulations regarding tie-breaking, we have
>> an
>>> immediate need to resolve the current situation before the next ICANN
>>> meeting.
>>>
>>> Based on discussions I have heard to date, there are three paths to
>>> resolving this that have received some interest:
>>>
>>>     1. Random tie-break
>>>     The votes for ALSs and unaffiliated members is re-held, and the rules
>>>     are modified. If another tie results, the tie is broken by a random
>>> method,
>>>     supervised by at least two non-candidate members and/or At-Large
>> staff.
>>>     2. Tie-break by NA-Region ALAC members
>>>     The votes for ALSs and unaffiliated members is re-held and he rules
>> are
>>>     modified. If another tie results, the tie is broken by a consensus
>>> achieved
>>>     in private by the three ALAC members for North America (Alan, Eduardo
>>> and
>>>     myself). Since there are three of us, no deadlock is allowed there
>>>
>>>     3. Shared Secretariat
>>>     No new election is held, and NARALO declares both Darlene and Glenn as
>>>     co-Secretariats. While there is no precedent for this in NARALO, there
>>> is
>>>     elsewhere in ICANN At-Large (both co-Chair and co-Secretariats have
>> been
>>>     done in other regions). The two would alternate travel to ICANN
>> meetings
>>>     (though both would naturally be at the Summit in London). In the case
>>> that
>>>     any of the North American At-Large leadership cannot attend a meeting
>>>     (Chair, travel-designated secretariat or ALAC member), the
>>> "non-travelling"
>>>     secretariat member would automatically be designated to take that
>> travel
>>>     allocation. The rules may still be modified in case of future ties,
>> but
>>>     such action is not required immediately.
>>>
>>> So I am proposing that, in advance of the next NARALO call, we could do
>> an
>>> informal poll of members (by Bigpulse or Doodle) to gain a sense of
>>> preferences between these options that may help guide a regional
>> consensus
>>> on the August call.
>>>
>>> Is this a workable plan? Are the options above a valid representation of
>>> the ones discussed? (There are some other tie-break methods I have
>>> eliminated because of lack of support to date).
>>>
>>> I admit that when I started thinking about the tie I had not given any
>>> thought to the shared secretariat idea, but it has grown on me since.
>> There
>>> is a significant amount of work to do, and it would be IMO a shame to
>> force
>>> an all-or-nothing tiebreak on two people with both popular support and an
>>> eagerness to do the job.
>>>
>>> - Evan
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