[NA-Discuss] Pre-registrations, next week's call, other issues

Gordon Chillcott gordontc at look.ca
Fri Jun 10 11:41:05 UTC 2011


I can make it to a meeting on Monday morning, too.    Again, just let us
know.

Gordon


On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 12:36 -0400, Eduardo Diaz wrote:
> Beau:
> 
> I can make the call in the morning (EST). Just let us know. Thursday I am
> going to be in transit to Singapore.
> 
> By the way, I did not see the note about Marc resigning.
> 
> -ed
> 
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Beau Brendler <beaubrendler at earthlink.net>wrote:
> 
> > Greetings.
> >
> > 1. I am assuming everyone saw the note yesterday about Marc Rotenberg's
> > resignation from his nom com slot on ALAC. I think this is a big loss to us
> > and to the effort of improving relations with the NCSG/UC but we all know
> > what it's like not to have enough time for this work.
> >
> > 2. I see some consensus over the past week on the possibility of sending a
> > brief statement to ICANN on the pre-registration matter that, in effect,
> > suggests it take a similar action to what was done a few years back, i.e., a
> > sort of "consumer alert" (though the intended audience really would be
> > businesses and entities interested in gTLDs). If so I will attempt to draft
> > something brief over the next 24 hours and send it to the list for a quick
> > round of feedback. If someone else would rather do that, let me know.
> >
> > 3. I believe there is a NA-RALO call scheduled for early next week. I will
> > only be available to do that early Monday EST (say during the 9 a.m. to 12
> > noon slot), but not again until Thursday, as I will be in transit to
> > Singapore. Please let me know what you would like to do -- reschedule call,
> > cancel, etc.
> >
> > 4. Don't forget that it would be very helpful for us attending the
> > Singapore meeting to have some input from all of you on policy issues. I
> > have collected what has been said so far (some of it ranging to issues
> > outside policy development, such as recruitment), but there's certainly room
> > for more requests/input.
> >
> > 5. I was not able to attend the recent call to discuss the budget. I
> > believe we have had a chance to review the document -- NA-RALO got basically
> > $5K to do a survey/study and another $1K to produce a recruitment video for
> > YouTube and other venues -- all the other requests were turned down. We can
> > communicate some more about whether it would be a good idea to try to
> > convene an NARALO general assembly at the Toronto meeting, as there should
> > be some travel funds to spare -- a number of us are within cheap travel
> > distance from there.
> >
> > More when I have a chance...
> >
> > Beau
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler at earthlink.net>
> > >Sent: Jun 6, 2011 1:10 PM
> > >To: ebw at abenaki.wabanaki.net, dannyyounger at yahoo.com
> > >Cc: na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Pre-registrations
> > >
> > >Eric B-W wrote:
> > >
> > >"offers of "pre-registration" by non-parties to registry
> > >application projects are contrary to the public interest, and may harm the
> > >targeted registry application projects, for which they have private
> > redress."
> > >
> > >After three years in ALAC, I don't recall this topic coming up, or the
> > ALAC making a statement on it.
> > >
> > >I would support drafting a statement that pre-registrations in this mode
> > are contrary to public interest -- though as chair I don't want to step
> > forward and do that without some discussion and consensus.
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: ebw at abenaki.wabanaki.net
> > >>Sent: Jun 6, 2011 9:50 AM
> > >>To: dannyyounger at yahoo.com
> > >>Cc: na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > >>Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Pre-registrations
> > >>
> > >>Danny,
> > >>
> > >>I do not know if the ALAC offered advice to the Board on the subject at
> > >>some prior point in time.
> > >>
> > >>Similarly, I do not know if the ALAC has offered advice to the FTC or any
> > >>other agency of a political jurisdiction on the subject at some prior
> > point
> > >>in time.
> > >>
> > >>If so, then I suppose that the ALAC advice can be checked for currency
> > and
> > >>either updated and referenced, or if current, simply referenced again.
> > >>
> > >>Application projects like the 2004 Catalan project, or the 2000
> > Cooperatives
> > >>project, should engage in communications to their prospective
> > communities,
> > >>as the default, the current situation, and still a problem for
> > cooperatives,
> > >>is that no practical alternative exists to Verisign's for-profit "com"
> > label.
> > >>
> > >>How close pre-application communications offering pre-service
> > information,
> > >>and of necessity, to meet the ICANN direct fee and additional costs which
> > >>are identified in the current DAG, also solliciting participation,
> > whether
> > >>unconditional, or in exchange for some current value, or expectation, can
> > >>come to "pre-registration" of a hypothetical, I can't speculate upon.
> > >>
> > >>The United Domains campaign is clearly not an instance of a single
> > application
> > >>project, or a cooperating group such as ECLID (Scotland, Wales, Brittany,
> > >>Galacia, and the Autonomous Basque Region) communicating to their
> > respective
> > >>communities.
> > >>
> > >>I'm not optimistic concerning ICANN's current CEO instructing staff
> > counsel
> > >>to make a determination that "pre-registration" volates the current
> > registrar
> > >>contract, but I think offers of "pre-registration" by non-parties to
> > registry
> > >>application projects are contrary to the public interest, and may harm
> > the
> > >>targeted registry application projects, for which they have private
> > redress.
> > >>
> > >>Eric
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