[NA-Discuss] interesting story (lawsuit document translated into English)

Sat Jul 16 22:06:30 UTC 2011

Danny:

Thanks for the translation. It helps to get everybody appropriately
informed.

There is more...

In 2007 the Internet Society of Puerto Rico (ISOC-PR) got very suspicions of
the change that IANA made to the Sponsoring Organization of the .pr ccTLD
records without informing anybody, including the University (see item 26 in
the sue document).

What concern us more was the fact that IANA allowed this to happen knowing
that it was being moved to a Corporation (the abbreviation "INC. means
Incorporated). So at that time I wrote an email to David Conrad, IANA
General Manager, expressing our concern. I have attached his response.
Apparently IANA knew something we did not know because he mentioned in his
response that ..."was done with the full consent of the parties that operate
the domain, as well as the University of Puerto Rico".

Well, ISOC-PR got a copy of a letter (attached also) sent by the University
of Puerto Rico to John Jefrey in June 2009 basically stating that they did
not consent to this change.I have no idea if ICANN responded to this letter.

The point is that there is a possibility that somebodies withing ICANN new
something funny was happening with the .pr ccTLD operation since 2006, that
they really did not care or could not do anything about it. Who knows!?

-ed

PD: By the way, all this information (and more) was submitted to IANA last
year in a re-delegation effort sponsored by ISOC-PR through a multi-sectoral
non-for-profit entity legally created just for that. After a year in going
back and forth with IANA, and even after talking with Susanne Sene at the
Department of Commerce (yes, anything to do with the .pr ccTLD had to go
through them) the case was closed. IANA requested a 'hostile' re-delegation
plan which we could not produce despite exhausting all our "expert" contacts
and  researching the Internet.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Danny Younger <dannyyounger at yahoo.com>wrote:

> attached is a translation into English of the document Eduardo provided.
> This is a very serious situation.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Garth Bruen at Knujon.com <gbruen at knujon.com>
> *To:* Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>; Beau Brendler <
> beaubrendler at earthlink.net>
> *Cc:* na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> *Sent:* Friday, July 15, 2011 5:03 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [NA-Discuss] interesting story
>
> My Spanish is a little rusty, but I got the gist, this is really serious.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Eduardo Diaz" <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 4:44 PM
> To: "Beau Brendler" <beaubrendler at earthlink.net>
> Cc: <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] interesting story
>
> > The .pr ccTLD situation has more ramifications.
> >
> > As the article says the University of Puerto Rico is suing the current
> > operator for taking public money (aprox. $2 million)  and University
> > equipment out of its facilities. I am attaching the original sue
> document.
> >
> > The document tells the story of the things that the operator did to move
> > money around the University system in preparation to move it out. It also
> > mentions how he fooled IANA in authorizing the re-delegation outside the
> > University.
> >
> > Good read! (The document is in Spanish and I do not know if there are any
> > translators for pdf type documents).
> >
> > -ed
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Beau Brendler
> > <beaubrendler at earthlink.net>wrote:
> >
> >> ...passed on by Eduardo, regards shenanigans at Puerto Rico's ccTLD:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.vocero.com/puerto-rico-es/se-llevan-dominio-www-gobierno-pr-sin-autorizacion
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler at earthlink.net>
> >> >Sent: Jul 15, 2011 4:13 PM
> >> >To: "na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org" <
> >> na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> >> >Subject: [NA-Discuss] agenda item for Monday's call
> >> >
> >> >Danny Younger will not be able to join Monday's call. He asked that we
> >> consider the following (quoting from his e-mail with a couple of edits).
>
> >> I
> >> will put this item on Monday's agenda.
> >> >
> >> >Beau
> >> >-----------------------------------
> >> >"The [draft applicant] Guidebook (section 3.3.2] calls upon the ALAC to
> >> develop a new gTLD objection vetting process.  Kurt Pritz, in his
> >> comments
> >> to Congress, has stipulated that he expects this to be a "robust"
> process
> >> established on behalf of the public interest.  My concern is that ... It
> >> took eleven and a half months just to set up the process to select an
> >> at-large director ... and there was a fair amount of confusion within
> >> some
> >> of the regions as to process considerations. Making matters worse is
> that
> >> we
> >> now have only around nine months within which to have the project
> >> completed.
> >> >
> >> >The Guidebook states:  At a minimum, the process for objecting to a
> gTLD
> >> application will require: bottom-up development of potential objections,
> >> discussion and approval of objections at the Regional At-Large
> >> Organization
> >> (RALO) level, and a process for consideration and approval of the
> >> objection
> >> by the At-Large Advisory Committee.
> >> >
> >> >... The NARALO has always taken the lead on major initiatives.  Perhaps
> >> this is the time to once more take the lead to defend the public
> >> interest."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >>From: Marilyn Vernon <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> >> >>Sent: Jul 13, 2011 9:44 PM
> >> >>To: "na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org" <
> >> na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> >> >>Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> >> >>Subject: [NA-Discuss] REMINDER: NARALO TELECONFERENCE - Monday,
> >> >>18
> >> July 19:00 UTC
> >> >>
> >> >>Dear All,
> >> >>
> >> >>The next NARALO teleconference is scheduled for Monday, 18 July 2011
> at
> >> >>19:00 UTC.
> >> >>
> >> >>The  agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at:
> >> >>https://community.icann.org/x/HIAUAQ
> >> >>
> >> >>If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at:
> >> >>staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>.
> >> >>
> >> >>--
> >> >>Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >>Heidi Ullrich, Gisella Gruber-White, Seth Greene, Marilyn Vernon, Matt
> >> >>Ashtiani
> >> >>ICANN At-Large Staff
> >> >>
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