[NA-Discuss] Fwd: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

[Marc Rotenberg]

Note this comment:

> This experience offers a number of lessons, among them that a policy to encourage the establishment of secondary servers to promote continuity of service as well as DNS stability could be useful and in the global public interest. ICANN will ask the ccNSO to consider proposing a policy to address this type of situation.

This is one of the points that could be/have been
incorporated in a statement from ALAC.

Marc.



On Jan 31, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:

> Noor is now down too and the stockmarket, up today at 2pm Cairo time 
> (when I checked to see the market close -- it never opened), is now down.
> 
> See Beckstrom's blog entry:
> http://blog.icann.org/2011/01/status-report-on-the-dns-in-egypt
> 
> He mentions two policy issues -- TTL expiry, and extra-territoriality 
> of secondary(ies), and goes out of his way to invoke a ccNSO policy 
> development outcome.
> 
> http://stat.ripe.net/egypt/ shows another big spike today when 
> Noor.net was pulled.
> 
> Eric
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt
> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:51:04 -0500
> From: Marshall Eubanks <tme at americafree.tv>
> To: Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com>
> CC: nanog at nanog.org
> 
> 
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:41 PM, Danny O'Brien wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Marshall Eubanks <tme at americafree.tv>wrote:
>> 
>>> As an update, BGP for Noor.net has been withdrawn. Even the Egyptian stock
>>> exchange - egyptse.com - now appears to be off the Internet.
>>> 
>>> 
>> Yep, Noor is now down.
> 
> Collateral damage from all of this, as detailed in
> 
> http://blog.icann.org/2011/01/status-report-on-the-dns-in-egypt/
> 
> is that the Arabic script top-level domain .masr (مصر)
> has been unavailable since the 27th, since it is is operated by NTRA 
> of Egypt.
> 
> Regards
> Marshall
> 
> 
>> 
>> Those on the ground with Noor DSL in Cairo contacted their front line
>> support, and they're saying "technical problems" that will take a few hours
>> to fix.
>> 
>> Does anyone has a list of routes that are still up, and seem to correlate
>> with Egyptian locations? Andree's last list is here:
>> http://bgpmon.net/egypt-routes-jan29-2011.txt
>> 
>> I'm staring at looking glass output to check these remaining routes, and
>> that seems unfair on both those offering those free services, and my own
>> sanity...
>> 
>> d.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> DNS for egyptse.com also appears to be down, but Noor.net is definitely
>>> withdrawn :
>>> 
>>> dig www.noor.net
>>> 
>>> ; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> www.noor.net
>>> ;; global options: +cmd
>>> ;; Got answer:
>>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 15709
>>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
>>> 
>>> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>>> ;www.noor.net.                  IN      A
>>> 
>>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>>> www.noor.net.           503     IN      CNAME   noor.net.
>>> noor.net.               503     IN      A       217.139.227.20
>>> 
>>> show ip bgp 217.139.227.20
>>> % Network not in table
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marshall
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If I'm correct, in 2000 in Fiji, the main fiber optic cable from the
>>> national provider to the international provider was sabotaged, cutting all
>>> communications. Fortunately an Alcatel team was on the island (SCC
>>> commissioning) with the right tools and could splice it back in a few hours,
>>> otherwise Fiji would have gone dark for days...
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Joe Abley" <jabley at hopcount.ca>
>>>> To: "Marshall Eubanks" <tme at americafree.tv>
>>>> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 29 January, 2011 7:32:07 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2011-01-28, at 11:33, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have seen nation state disconnects where light is lost.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I believe that was the case for Burma, for example.
>>>> 
>>>> It was not the case in Nepal in 2005 though, if I remember correctly. In
>>> that case connectivity to the outside was maintained, but access to that
>>> connectivity by people inside the country was curtailed.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Joe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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