[NA-Discuss] Forward motion on the Egyptian Internet shutdown

[Avri Doria]

Hi,

I think your option B was what i was suggesting.  It is ICANN that should make the statement in my estimation.  and NARALO and others need to work within ALAC to get ICANN to do this. I think it also good to look for AFRALO leadership in ALAC's framing of a statement.

So perhaps a public letter from NARALO to ALAC making a suggestion for an ICANN statement containing the points outlined by Marc would be appropriate.

a.

(please forgive me if, as an ALS member and not a NARALO rep, I am being too forward with my suggestions and arguments - i don't want to overstep my bounds.)


On 31 Jan 2011, at 08:42, Beau Brendler wrote:

> OK, since this discussion took place on the NA list, help me with the next step, if there is one.
> 
> Is the consensus that NA should draft a short statement? I would urge against it. Though I personally believe something should be said, it is for ALAC to make the move, and leadership of AF-RALO should take the lead -- and whether that means creating a statement, or urging ICANN as an organization to do something should also be specified.
> 
> So the choices are:
> 
> a) Make a short NA statement.
> b) Make no NA statement but vociferously tell the ALAC to make a statement and/or advise ICANN to do so.
> c) What?
> 
> Beau
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml at communisphere.com>
>> Sent: Jan 31, 2011 12:36 AM
>> To: Gareth Shearman <shearman at victoria.tc.ca>
>> Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Fwd: The Internet Society on Egypt’s Internet shutdown
>> 
>> +1
>> 
>> On 1/31/2011 12:32 AM, Gareth Shearman wrote:
>>> + 1
>>> 
>>> Gareth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2011-01-30, at 8:45 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Well then we disagree.
>>>> 
>>>> For the more we discuss it, the more convinced I become that ICANN should make a statement declaring, at the very least, this sort of behavior to be incompatible with the well being of the Internet and contrary to international covenants related to freedom of information.
>>>> 
>>>> If ICANN is going to have credibility in its role as a steward of the Internet, it must not let this pass uncommented.  If it does, then it will share responsibility for all future such action by virtue of its silence.
>>>> 
>>>> John, I thank you for helping me see the issue more clearly.
>>>> 
>>>> a.
>>>> 
>>>> On 30 Jan 2011, at 23:30, John R. Levine wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> But certainly I think ICANN can describe what sorts of behavior is and is not appropriate and certainly I think that allocation policy can look at taking such behaviors into account.
>>>>> I am unalterably opposed to any proposal in which ICANN would purport to tell any government what to do.  That just makes us look silly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's not like the Egyptian government is unaware of what they've done, after all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> John Levine, johnl at iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
>>>>> Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
>>>>> 
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