[NA-Discuss] Fwd: Edits and comments to NARALO/ALAC position statement on GAC scorecard
Antony Van Couvering
avc at avc.vc
Fri Apr 1 20:40:56 UTC 2011
Hmmm, I thought that was a totally reasonable request. Oh well.
How are you going to know if I break the secret rules again if you're not reading what I write?
Antony
On Apr 1, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Beau Brendler wrote:
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> Troll file. bye
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> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Antony Van Couvering <avc at avc.vc>
>> Sent: Apr 1, 2011 4:31 PM
>> To: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler at earthlink.net>
>> Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Darlene Thompson <DThompson at GOV.NU.CA>
>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Fwd: Edits and comments to NARALO/ALAC position statement on GAC scorecard
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>> Beau Brendler,
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>> If you don't mind, since you made the announcement of your "duty" public, I would like your rationale to be made publicly too. I seem recall an insistence on transparency at ICANN emanating from some quarters of ICANN.
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>> FWIW, I didn't intend the statement you quote as a threat and have a hard time understanding how it could be construed as such. So I would like your rationale on the record. If you decline to provide one in public, I would like you to withdraw your warning. I would also appreciate you being specific as to the supposed personal attack I made, because on reviewing that I have a hard time how what I said could be construed that way either.
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>> In addition, I would appreciate a link to the rules of conduct for the NA-discuss list, and to any other organization or procedural rules for NARALO . I can't find anything on the NARALO site (https://st.icann.org/naralo/), which appears to be woefully out of date.
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>> Thanks,
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>> Antony
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>>
>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Beau Brendler wrote:
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>>> My caution has nothing to do with your opinion -- Richard Tindal is expressing very similar opinions to yours, and there's quite a good discussion ensuing. Opinions are welcome. Personal attacks (as one list member complained about when he said he would add you to his troll list) and threats (as I read your comment below, in the context of the e-mails before and after it, to be) aren't. If you need further specifics e-mail me offline or call me on the phone, I'm in the book in the New York area.
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Antony Van Couvering <avc at avc.vc>
>>>> Sent: Apr 1, 2011 3:56 PM
>>>> To: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler at earthlink.net>
>>>> Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Fwd: Edits and comments to NARALO/ALAC position statement on GAC scorecard
>>>>
>>>> Beau Brendler,
>>>>
>>>> I see that Jeff Williams and I have something in common at last....
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>>>> Could you be more specific as to how these words imply a threat? I am excited to know that I have a home in ICANN at last and I want to make sure that I don't do it again.
>>>>
>>>> Antony Van Couvering
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Beau Brendler wrote:
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>>>>> Antony Van Couvering,
>>>>>
>>>>> As chairman of NARALO, I believe it's my duty to inform you this e-mail communication, specifically the part that says "I've done pretty well ignoring all the baiting up until now though, don't you think? You have no idea of the steely discipline I have imposed on myself," constitutes an implied threat, and therefore violates participation guidelines for ICANN mailing lists.
>>>>>
>>>>> If another such infraction occurs you will be barred from this list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Beau Brendler
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Antony Van Couvering <avc at avc.vc>
>>>>>> Sent: Apr 1, 2011 12:05 AM
>>>>>> To: Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>
>>>>>> Cc: "John R. Levine" <johnl at iecc.com>, NA Discuss <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Fwd: Edits and comments to NARALO/ALAC position statement on GAC scorecard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree that this is somewhat unkind, but it is rather on point to the discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've done pretty well ignoring all the baiting up until now though, don't you think? You have no idea of the steely discipline I have imposed on myself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antony
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 31 March 2011 23:25, Antony Van Couvering <avc at avc.vc> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P.S. Is that jl.ly in your signature one of those "vanity" domain names you're always going on about?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So much for the claim of good faith attempt to engage without personal attack.
>>>>>>> Welcome to my troll filter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Evan
>>>>>>>
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