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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES-AR link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Estimado Alejandro, apenas termine ICANN 53, nos pondremos con esto y todo lo demás en que aún se está trabajando.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Saludos cordiales<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Alberto Soto<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>De:</span></b><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] <b>En nombre de </b>Alejandro Pisanty<br><b>Enviado el:</b> jueves, 25 de junio de 2015 12:35 p.m.<br><b>Para:</b> LACRALO<br><b>CC:</b> LACRALO discussion list<br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [lac-discuss-es] = UTF-8 b TcOpdHJpY2Fz = ????<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hola,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>creo que estamos en posición de declarar un consenso sobre estos lineamientos Ayer Sergio y otros me manifestaron verbalmente apoyo a la propuesta. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Alberto y Humberto, de verdad de verdad les pido instituir el proceso correspondiente.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Con este consenso podemos:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>1. explorar la situación real de las organizaciones sin iniciar procesos formales;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2. explorar cuáles serían las reglas formales aplicables;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>3. ayudar de inmediato a las organizaciones que más lo necesiten.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Saludos cordiales<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Alejandro Pisanty<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:42 AM, <<a href="mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com" target="_blank">jam@jacquelinemorris.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><br>[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]]<br><br> Asunto: Re: = UTF-8 b TcOpdHJpY2Fz = ????<br> Desde: <a href="mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com">jam@jacquelinemorris.com</a><br><br> El diablo, es siempre, sin embargo, en los detalles.<br> El 25 de junio 2015 10:28, &quot;Carlton Samuels&quot; <<a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br><br><br>> Yes, we are now in the ballpark. I can support these for baseline.<br>><br>> -Carlton<br>><br>><br>> ==============================<br>> Carlton A Samuels<br>> Mobile: <a href="tel:876-818-1799">876-818-1799</a><br>> *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*<br>> =============================<br>><br>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, <<a href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com">apisanty@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>><br>>> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]<br>>><br>>> Subject: = utf-8 b TcOpdHJpY2Fz =????<br>>> From: <a href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com">apisanty@gmail.com</a><br>>><br>>> Colleagues,<br>>><br>>><br>>> today at the monthly meeting face (f2) we held a brief discussion<br>>> on metrics.<br>>><br>>><br>>> Subject to this discussion back to his place in a working group,<br>>> I think it is worth to make clear what the objective metrics. This<br>>> It is well understood in the community, and those who say they do not<br>>> They made by self-interest to distort the discussion.<br>>><br>>><br>>> What we need we are accountability and transparency between us<br>>> thereof. Individuals and organizations working activametne be<br>>> identified. Organizations and individuals that do not contribute<br>>> They involved to decide whether they will participate or no longer<br>>> counted. And there<br>>> an intermediate strip of organizations and representatives who are<br>>> difficult to participate but have the will to do so.Among these there<br>>> Many types of situations: a representative who is sick or has to<br>>> spend time with family or work that sustains; changing<br>>> directive or mandate; and many more circumstances.<br>>><br>>><br>>> A good metric system would be simple, transparent, predictable, and<br>>> difficult to counterfeit. Would make a &quot;triage&quot;, ie would<br>>> rather obvious<br>>> 5-10 which are regularly participating organizations and<br>>> They contribute 20 which are practically abandoned, and a strip<br>>> intermediate 10 or 15 with which we must work in hopes that<br>>> recover their participation or leave the organization voluntarily or<br>>> by way of decertification. This assumes renewal cycles<br>>> certifications, we must institute.<br>>><br>>><br>>> There is a classification of units that can help us further<br>>> in this process:<br>>><br>>><br>>> 1. Regular and consistent participation in all activities, and<br>>> contribution to substantive policy issues.His proposals are<br>>> LACRALO incorporated into resolutions and have impact on policy<br>>> ALAC and ICANN.<br>>><br>>><br>>> 2. sporadic participation and / or devoted to procedural matters<br>>> Reglaments, formats agreements but not their contents, etc.<br>>><br>>><br>>> 3. sporadic appearances, little focus, and fundamentally<br>>> leading to &quot;make presence&quot; for elections and selection<br>>> processes<br>>> for participation in events, especially if they involve support for<br>>> travel.<br>>><br>>><br>>> Our observation or measurement of participation of organizations<br>>> should favor the type 1, type 3 disadvantage, and encourage those who<br>>> make appearances type 2 pass to level 1.<br>>><br>>><br>>> If we can have agreement around these principles, the Working Group<br>>> Governance Metrics and only have to produce a good<br>>> implementation and their work will be more reliable, predictable and<br>>> achievable.<br>>><br>>><br>>> Is there any disagreement with these general principles?<br>>><br>>><br>>> Alejandro Pisanty<br>>><br>>><br>>> -<br>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty<br>>> UNAM Faculty of Chemistry<br>>> 3000 University Avenue,. 04510 Mexico DF Mexico<br>>> + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD<br>>> SMS FROM MEXICO +525541444475 +525541444475<br>>> Blog: <a href="http://pisanty.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://pisanty.blogspot.com</a><br>>> LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty</a><br>>> UNAM Join the LinkedIn group,<br>>> <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614</a><br>>> Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/apisanty" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/apisanty</a><br>>> ---- &gt;&gt; Join ISOC Mexico, <a href="http://www.isoc.org" target="_blank">http://www.isoc.org</a><br>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<br>>><br>>><br>>><br><br><br><br>[[--Original text (en)<br><a href="http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ca7fb3bcbe.html" target="_blank">http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ca7fb3bcbe.html</a><br>--]]<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>lac-discuss-es mailing list<br><a href="mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org">lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br><a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es" target="_blank">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es</a><br><br><a href="http://www.lacralo.org" target="_blank">http://www.lacralo.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty<br>Facultad de Química UNAM<br>Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico<br>+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD<br>+525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475<br>Blog: <a href="http://pisanty.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://pisanty.blogspot.com</a><br>LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty</a><br>Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614</a><br>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/apisanty" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/apisanty</a><br>---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, <a href="http://www.isoc.org" target="_blank">http://www.isoc.org</a><br>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div>
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