<div dir="ltr">Hola,<div><br></div><div>creo que estamos en posición de declarar un consenso sobre estos lineamientos Ayer Sergio y otros me manifestaron verbalmente apoyo a la propuesta. </div><div><br></div><div>Alberto y Humberto, de verdad de verdad les pido instituir el proceso correspondiente.</div><div><br></div><div>Con este consenso podemos:</div><div><br></div><div>1. explorar la situación real de las organizaciones sin iniciar procesos formales;</div><div><br></div><div>2. explorar cuáles serían las reglas formales aplicables;</div><div><br></div><div>3. ayudar de inmediato a las organizaciones que más lo necesiten.</div><div><br></div><div>Saludos cordiales</div><div><br></div><div>Alejandro Pisanty</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:42 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com" target="_blank">jam@jacquelinemorris.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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El diablo, es siempre, sin embargo, en los detalles.<br>
El 25 de junio 2015 10:28, &quot;Carlton Samuels&quot; <<a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br>
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> Yes, we are now in the ballpark. I can support these for baseline.<br>
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> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, <<a href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com">apisanty@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> From: <a href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com">apisanty@gmail.com</a><br>
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>> today at the monthly meeting face (f2) we held a brief discussion<br>
>> on metrics.<br>
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>> Subject to this discussion back to his place in a working group,<br>
>> I think it is worth to make clear what the objective metrics. This<br>
>> It is well understood in the community, and those who say they do not<br>
>> They made by self-interest to distort the discussion.<br>
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>> What we need we are accountability and transparency between us<br>
>> thereof. Individuals and organizations working activametne be<br>
>> identified. Organizations and individuals that do not contribute<br>
>> They involved to decide whether they will participate or no longer<br>
>> counted. And there<br>
>> an intermediate strip of organizations and representatives who are<br>
>> difficult to participate but have the will to do so.Among these there<br>
>> Many types of situations: a representative who is sick or has to<br>
>> spend time with family or work that sustains; changing<br>
>> directive or mandate; and many more circumstances.<br>
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>> A good metric system would be simple, transparent, predictable, and<br>
>> difficult to counterfeit. Would make a &quot;triage&quot;, ie would<br>
>> rather obvious<br>
>> 5-10 which are regularly participating organizations and<br>
>> They contribute 20 which are practically abandoned, and a strip<br>
>> intermediate 10 or 15 with which we must work in hopes that<br>
>> recover their participation or leave the organization voluntarily or<br>
>> by way of decertification. This assumes renewal cycles<br>
>> certifications, we must institute.<br>
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>> There is a classification of units that can help us further<br>
>> in this process:<br>
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>> 1. Regular and consistent participation in all activities, and<br>
>> contribution to substantive policy issues.His proposals are<br>
>> LACRALO incorporated into resolutions and have impact on policy<br>
>> ALAC and ICANN.<br>
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>> 2. sporadic participation and / or devoted to procedural matters<br>
>> Reglaments, formats agreements but not their contents, etc.<br>
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>> 3. sporadic appearances, little focus, and fundamentally<br>
>> leading to &quot;make presence&quot; for elections and selection<br>
>> processes<br>
>> for participation in events, especially if they involve support for<br>
>> travel.<br>
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>> Our observation or measurement of participation of organizations<br>
>> should favor the type 1, type 3 disadvantage, and encourage those who<br>
>> make appearances type 2 pass to level 1.<br>
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>> If we can have agreement around these principles, the Working Group<br>
>> Governance Metrics and only have to produce a good<br>
>> implementation and their work will be more reliable, predictable and<br>
>> achievable.<br>
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>> Is there any disagreement with these general principles?<br>
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>> Alejandro Pisanty<br>
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