[lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] Transcripción ALAC Subcommittee on Outreach and Engagement Call
Harold Arcos
harold.arcos at gmail.com
Wed Mar 25 19:08:00 UTC 2020
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13:20:41 our strategic plan and
13:20:42
RALO. How can we work with
13:20:45 GSA and how can we actually reach
out
13:20:47 to the young people and get
13:20:49 them more involved with what
we are doing. Because
13:20:52 it's a lost opportunity. Because
Jonathan
13:20:54 said in the chat,
13:20:56 it's an ideological thing. But
I've
13:20:58 talked to people, like
13:21:01 Mathias and Lorain and stuff.
They come
13:21:03 from the same pool.
13:21:06 They didn't adhere to a
13:21:08
certain fill sympathy. We provide
13:21:11 a much more balanced,
13:21:13 more
metered response to things.
13:21:16 We are not knee jerk
13:21:18 . We
don't see see
13:21:20 the business communities as
13:21:23 -- especially
Olivier that did
13:21:25 a suburb job
13:21:27 with the
13:21:29 joint efforts we do
with
13:21:31 NCUC and POC as well,
13:21:33 and I think we show we are leaders
13:21:36
leaders.
I think the message
13:21:38 didn't resinate with NextGen
13:21:41 because we
did a lecture
13:21:44 then disappeared w we need a
13:21:46 conscious effort
to make
13:21:48 sure the NextGen
13:21:51 come in and we are relevant to them
13:21:53 .
That's my piece,
13:21:55 thank you
13:22:00 .
13:22:04 5Google Sprint I'd like to open up the floor for
13:22:06
discussions. Olivier please.
13:22:08 You have the floor
13:22:12 .
>> OLIVIER CREPIN-LEBLOND: Thank you very much Daniel. And
13:22:15
thanks to Glen for
13:22:17 having highlighted a lot of the things
13:22:19 I
wanted to point out
13:22:21 .
Have also attended a lot of the
13:22:23 NCUC --
13:22:25 of course the joint
At-Large and
13:22:29 MCUC capacity building sessions
13:22:31 but also I guess
in other
13:22:33 responsibilities both of to the
13:22:36 Internet society and
other organizations
13:22:38 like IGFs and so on
13:22:40 . Worked a lot
13:22:42 with
academics and many railroad
13:22:44 NCUC members and
13:22:46 not members
At-Large. It's a question that
13:22:48 has been if you go e bugging
me for a while. I
13:22:50 said why did you go for
13:22:53 NCUC? It's true
in many of
13:22:55 the cases it's case of birds
13:22:57 of a feather flock
together.
13:23:00 I know this call is
13:23:02 interpreted so it's hard
13:23:04 to
translate this effectively
13:23:07 .
It means there are quite a
13:23:09 few actics already
13:23:11 in NCUC and it
13:23:13
brings the interest of more academics
13:23:15 in there they are able
to network and talk
13:23:17 to each other. There's a
13:23:20 whole academic
community in there. This is
13:23:22 something we may want to rook
into as
13:23:24 we have more academics then
13:23:26 may be we can offer them
this ability to network
13:23:29 and talk to each other
13:23:31 and perhaps
even work
13:23:33 on common issues and certain efforts
13:23:36 we might
propose
13:23:38 then they might want to publish on
13:23:40 .
Academia is mostly about teaching but
13:23:42 also the research
requires
13:23:44 publication and publishing. And
13:23:46 can you know sort
of outlook
13:23:48 outside of
13:23:50 the usual circles.
The
13:23:52 second thing I did find
13:23:54 also, often we are as much as we
13:23:56
want to be, we want to be
13:23:58 very welcoming
13:24:00 to everyone. But we
are not that
13:24:02 well structure for this. So
13:24:04 to give you an
idea, at the end
13:24:07 of our joint capacity
13:24:09 building session,
13:24:11 NCUC
does a very
13:24:13 quick recap of what they
13:24:16 said and says, if you
are interested
13:24:18 in this topic, are here is the person
13:24:20 you need
to talk to. That person
13:24:23 is our topic
13:24:25 lead and another person
is another
13:24:27 topic lead. And these topic
13:24:29 leads actively go out
speaking
13:24:32 to the people that they have seen talk
13:24:33 about
specific topics. So they
13:24:36 basically admittedly
13:24:38 many academics
don't come into At-Large
13:24:41 or ICANN is can say I want to do
everything
13:24:43 . I'm interested in everything
13:24:45 .
Many go into specific thing
13:24:47 that they are interested in.
And at
13:24:49 MCUC they have a specific topic
13:24:52 lead that immediately
brings
13:24:54 him in and says
13:24:56 you don't want to work on other stuff
13:24:58
but I can certainly hold your hand and take you
13:25:02 there. I
don't think its mentorship,
13:25:04 I think mentorship goes further
13:25:06
than this. It's something
13:25:08 to welcome you and show you
13:25:11 the
represents very quickly and you get thing
13:25:13 started
13:25:17 .
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: Thank you very much Olivier. And we
have an action
13:25:19 point I think from that presentation. By
13:25:22
Joanna offered
13:25:25 to coordinate the academic outreach and
13:25:28 for
the academic engagement
13:25:30 as all. That's an action
13:25:32 point we
have from this point. Let
13:25:34 me simply continue this
13:25:36
discussion. Let me hear from
13:25:39 Jonathan then we should get
back
13:25:42 to Joanna
13:25:44 .
Yes Jonathan
13:25:48 .
>> JONATHAN ZUCK: Hi, I guess I agree with Olivier that
13:25:52
identifying specific people to talk would be
13:25:54 useful. I'd
13:25:56 be
very interested in academics
13:25:59 like Joanna to see
13:26:01 why they made
the choice
13:26:03 to go on with ICANN At-Large
13:26:05 instead of
13:26:07 UCMC. My
overly glib about this
13:26:09 , but the rights driven
13:26:12 sort of
ideological approach
13:26:14 of NCUC is
13:26:16 very attractive to the
13:26:18
academic community. And that a lot of what we
13:26:21 do is muddy
13:26:23 ,
trying to figure out what
13:26:25 the interests of end
13:26:27 users really
are. It doesn't
13:26:29 have the same
13:26:31 clarity associated with it
13:26:33
protecting the right to privacy
13:26:36 or preacting the right
13:26:38 to
free speech offer to you
13:26:40 know people threshly out of school
13:26:43 .
So, I'd
13:26:45 be interested in
13:26:47 the
13:26:50 academic academics that
13:26:52 chose
not to go
13:26:54 MCUC. Because my impression
13:26:57 of lot of academickics
that
13:26:59 come out of the school with
13:27:01 a broadly theoretical way of
13:27:03
the world rather than practical
13:27:06 one and NCUC is set
13:27:08 up
ideologically to be a match
13:27:10 for that
13:27:13 .
Be
13:27:16 .
>> ANNA: Thank you very much Jonathan for that
13:27:18 . Since
Joanna already
13:27:20 has her hand up she should be
13:27:22 the best person
to answer that. And, also,
13:27:24 Monday the together the chat, I
have
13:27:26 at least the
13:27:28 points that
13:27:30 NCUC much more
13:27:32 powerful in the
policy making
13:27:34 process and we are downgrade
13:27:37 ed as advisers I
13:27:39
know this was mid land I know how that was
13:27:42 . And they were I
13:27:44
sack is engaged Olivia.
13:27:46 And then this is going to be able to
engage
13:27:49 .
Then we also need people
13:27:51 in that
13:27:53 the suggestions.
Another point is
13:27:56 that the individuals are still sent
13:27:58 from
the outside as listen
13:28:00 point and competent
13:28:02 . So individuals
believe that
13:28:04 in the NCUC they can count
13:28:06 more. I see all of
13:28:09
this just plans to justify
13:28:11 how we can effectively engage
13:28:13 with
the academia.
13:28:16 This point, let me first
13:28:18 give the floor to
Joanna
13:28:21 . Then she should be able to continue.
13:28:23 Yes an you a
please, you have the
13:28:26 floor.
>>
13:28:29 KULESZA: Thank you Daniel I like
13:28:31 this discussion and
thank you for hosting it and
13:28:33 can everyone participating and
13:28:36
the chat box and the floor. Let
13:28:38 me just share a personal
point of view.
13:28:40 Let me emphasize,
13:28:42 I would very much like to
have this discussion
13:28:44 not as a confrontation
13:28:47 . I would very
much like us
13:28:49 not to compete with the NCC as
13:28:51 much as I see
this happening with
13:28:53 chat. I would rather emphasize
13:28:56 the
unique qualities that
13:28:58 the At-Large offers that
13:29:00 is something
that Jonathan
13:29:02 has mentioned.
13:29:04 It's a comprehensive
13:29:06
perspective with NC
13:29:08 UC framed. I would rather
13:29:11 emphasize the
unique
13:29:13 qualities that At-Large had
13:29:15 to you offer.
13:29:17 mentorship
13:29:19
and experienced qualities and
13:29:21 I found tremendously.
13:29:24 It's not
a dramatic
13:29:26 exercise it's on the ground policy
13:29:28 making exercise
13:29:30
that actics can be contributing
13:29:32 to. And this is where it's
done and
13:29:34 ICANN does it and
13:29:36 At-Large offers a more
comprehensive
13:29:39 perspective.
In that sense I would
13:29:41 like the narrative on academic
engagement
13:29:44 to focus on the unique qualities
13:29:47 we have rather
than
13:29:49 keep keep it as a comparison
13:29:50 or competitive exercise
with
13:29:53 other communities.
I like to think
13:29:55 about this exercise
13:29:58 as one step or one foot
13:30:00
before the others. Alley
13:30:02 here mentioned
13:30:05 it's an excursion of
birds
13:30:07 of a feather flocking together
13:30:10 . Let's have a series of
events
13:30:12 , series of
13:30:14 examples how to get younger
13:30:17 academics
involved. Those that want to think
13:30:19 in a pragmatic way
13:30:21 those
that want to use this opportunity to test their
13:30:23 research on
the ground, on the policy
13:30:25 making ground that we have
13:30:27 to
offer. None of those activities
13:30:29 I was trying to describe
13:30:31
attend to that chance. So we are trying
13:30:33 to get them informed
how this works
13:30:35 . And show them
13:30:37 where their expertise could be
used
13:30:39 .
For me personally it's not so much
13:30:42 about the competition but
rather
13:30:44 it is an exercise in building
13:30:47 bridges and breaking the
silos
13:30:49 . I think we have also Adam on
13:30:51 the floor here what has
been tremendously
13:30:54 helpful. In coordinating
13:30:56 the work with the
13:30:58
GSC group. I've actually
13:31:01 been in touch with the local
13:31:03 GSC
representative here in Poland
13:31:05 . They were planning events,
13:31:08 we
were planning
13:31:10 seminars. And so
13:31:12 I would encourage us to plan
13:31:14
our activities to be
13:31:15 more visible rather than have this
13:31:19
comparative exercise. That's something I wanted
13:31:22 to note with
regard to the discussion we are
13:31:24 having.
Step-by-step
13:31:27 so to speak
13:31:29 and changeable that we can work on
13:31:32
before the --
13:31:35
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: Net me read a comment with
13:31:37 the role of
At-Large you have
13:31:39 to get from a whole lot of groups
13:31:42 and a
whole lot of capacity as well
13:31:44 . She totally supports
13:31:46 this
initiative she looks at
13:31:48 building for all groups and academia
is
13:31:50 one of the groups which I think
13:31:52 is absolutely correct.
Let me
13:31:54 get to EURO and then jump
13:31:56 to the next presentation
13:32:00
about At-Large videos
13:32:02 . Please
13:32:08 adealing
13:32:12 Yrjolansipuro
13:32:15 .
>> Thank you, I think At-Large should be an
13:32:17 attractive
organization for
13:32:19 ICANN those
13:32:21 academia that are interested in
researching
13:32:23 the users experience. The
13:32:26 user interests. How
13:32:28
the whole thing looks from the user
13:32:30 point of view. That
would be very
13:32:32 -- that would be really beneficial
13:32:34 for us also.
The that is
13:32:37 to say, toen
13:32:40 courage research that would
13:32:42 tell us
there's more
13:32:44 about user interested
13:32:49 on a research
13:32:53 pace or
scientific pace
13:32:56 .
13:32:58
I think that not all
13:33:01 accommodations are not always
interested
13:33:03 in what is called here in the
13:33:05 discussion
ideological things.
13:33:08 I think that there are probably
13:33:10 are also
people that are interested
13:33:12 in research
13:33:15 questions that touch
the practical thing
13:33:17 . And we should
13:33:19 try to attract them.
13:33:22
Thank you
13:33:24 .
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: Thank you very much Y
13:33:29 rjo it's all about
how we are able
13:33:31 to engage.
Let me give Adam
13:33:33 the floor then I'll request Natalia
13:33:35 she be
able to speak when it comes
13:33:38 to session of social media,
working
13:33:41 with representatives. Let me hear
13:33:43 from Adam then
Michelle
13:33:46 Jonathan.
Adam you have
13:33:49 the
13:33:52 .
>>
13:33:56 ADAMPEAKE: Just to follow up
13:33:58 on some
13:34:00 academic ideas. I
mention Heidi in the
13:34:02 chat but I look at
13:34:05 for example the
13:34:07 URLO
individual members there's a
13:34:10 lot of young academics
13:34:12 there
people I recognize from NextGen
13:34:16 and from some of the
13:34:18 European
13:34:20
IGF activities. Euro
13:34:23 dig C dig et cetera.
13:34:25 So you have
actually you are a good
13:34:27 , good group of young
13:34:29 ACs. Who
13:34:31 Ph.D.
or
13:34:33 post dock that you might begin to look at
13:34:36 . If I can help
in
13:34:38 any way, please let me
13:34:40 know.
I wanted to --
13:34:42 maybe the same for all of the
13:34:44 RALOs. I'm not
sure
13:34:46 . I open looked at
13:34:48 RALO yesterday
13:34:50 for other reasons.
To quickly go
13:34:53 on, gee an amentioned
13:34:55 GSA Europe is supporting
some lectures
13:34:57 at her university
13:35:00 . [
13:35:02 GSEE] if you are
13:35:04 in Europe
contact me. If you want contact
13:35:06 with your regional G
13:35:10 SE maybe
members topic lead to talk about lectures
13:35:13 that can be
delivered online now with individuals
13:35:15 or let me know, of
course
13:35:17 you have contacts anyway. Don't shy
13:35:19 away from asking
for the online lectures
13:35:21 . This something that GSE
13:35:23 is thinking
about. How can
13:35:25 we serve you while we are in this
13:35:27 sort of
virtual environment
13:35:31 . And you
13:35:33 know. Give us
13:35:35 your ideas. On
the agenda. I think
13:35:37 what is slipping ahead I wanted
13:35:40 to just
say a little
13:35:42 bit about out reaches where you might
13:35:44 think
about this, the time we have online
13:35:47 .
Please do think about web
13:35:50 Mars we can add to your Webinar
schedule
13:35:52 . Think about
13:35:54 what the for mark might be
13:35:56 , a Webinar
that is
13:35:58 an informational session followed
13:36:00 by a follow up
Webinar that is a
13:36:03 discussion where you're putting your sort
of
13:36:05 response, considered response rather
13:36:07 than Q&A back to the
13:36:10
representers and the others we have a topic
13:36:12 might be, this is
just a suggestion
13:36:15 , would be Internet of things from
13:36:17 DNS which
is a paper that
13:36:19 the SSAC
13:36:22 did produce and was going to be
13:36:24 a
high at the Cancun meeting and
13:36:26 was not put on the virtual
agenda
13:36:28 . The intention of that paper was
13:36:30 to begin a
discussion
13:36:32 about those topics. They want
13:36:35 community input on
that. That
13:36:37 would be abinteresting way
13:36:40 to have an
introduction from say the
13:36:42 office of the CPEs team
13:36:44 and the S
sack
13:36:46 team had then take that discussion
13:36:49 where you have a
consideration of it and come back with
13:36:51 a later Webinar where
13:36:53
you're discussing your points of view. That might be
13:36:54 an
approach that could be taken
13:36:57 for other things. I'm just
trying
13:36:59 to throw out ideas that may or may not be helpful
13:37:02 . I
hope a little helpful
13:37:05 .
Then Joanna mentioned a slide deck
13:37:08 you're preparing again,
GSE does a
13:37:10 lot of presentations so
13:37:12 we may get some ideas on
what
13:37:15 works or different work from
13:37:17 my office space too. May
not
13:37:19 be helpful from you and
13:37:21 maximum.
I hope
13:37:23 everyone is safe and well.
13:37:26 Cheers
13:37:28 .
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: Thank you very much Adam for that.
13:37:30
Let's proceed to the presentation
13:37:32 with John that will
regarding
13:37:35 the videos. Jonathan
13:37:37 you have the floor then
Natalia
13:37:42 .
>> JONATHAN ZUCK: Thanks. It's interesting,
13:37:44 I'm a big fan
of video as
13:37:46 a method of communication
13:37:48 . Being a film
13:37:50 maker
and, also,
13:37:53 just because people are
13:37:55 inherently visual. And
13:37:57 I
think that they can
13:38:01 be very compelling to try
13:38:03 to get a point
across
13:38:05 or help people learn things
13:38:07 .
It occurs to me now
13:38:10 , one video we may
13:38:12 need is just about
13:38:14
what the At-Large is, just
13:38:16 so that, because of
13:38:19 how we
describe ourselves has
13:38:21 to be done in a consistent
13:38:23 and
powerful way, I think
13:38:25 .
What I wanted to talk about a little
13:38:28 bit was the result of
the
13:38:31 experience that we had with ICANN
13:38:35 67. And I through
together
13:38:37 a very quick video
13:38:40 for the DNS abuse
13:38:43 101 At-Large
call to action
13:38:46 session. And all of
13:38:48 that really was,
13:38:50 was a
PowerPoint that
13:38:52 I recorded as a
13:38:54 video to make it
13:38:56 easier to
produce
13:38:58 multiple languages that people get
13:39:00 off You Tube or
elsewhere
13:39:03 that had slow connections
13:39:05 and slow bandwidth and
13:39:07
are not normally on the Zoom
13:39:09 room when they participate on
calls but
13:39:11 are only on the phones
13:39:14 .
So that was my
13:39:16 intention at the time, to really just
13:39:18 provide
a way for
13:39:20 people to view
13:39:22 the presentation even
13:39:24 if they were
not on the
13:39:27 vroom
13:39:30 room.
But as
13:39:33 tiepin stubbly does it leads
13:39:35 to requests about videos
and as we talked a
13:39:37 little about educating
13:39:39 the end user as
part
13:39:42 of the presentation, there was
13:39:44 a lot of interest in us
13:39:46
creating the videos
13:39:48 and so as I started thinking about
13:39:50 that,
it started to create some
13:39:52 foundational questions that
13:39:55 I
wanted to put in front of other people
13:39:58 to discuss.
Because I don't necessarily
13:40:00 know the answers. So
13:40:02 I wanted
to have
13:40:05 us discuss them.
One of the
13:40:07 things that marketing
13:40:10 101 we learned along time
ago
13:40:12 . But it's often when
13:40:14 designing a proposal
13:40:16 , PowerPoint,
13:40:18
et cetera is a different formula,
13:40:21 the audience with
13:40:23 purpose
equals design. If you have a good
13:40:25 sense of who you're trying
to speak
13:40:27 to and what you want from them, that will be a
13:40:29 powerful guide to the way you
13:40:31 actually create a presentation
or
13:40:34 video. And
13:40:36 the video I created for
13:40:38 DNS abuse session
13:40:40 was
specifically targeted at people
13:40:42 that were already part of
At-Large
13:40:44 to get them kind of spun up and
13:40:47 excited about DNS
abuse
13:40:50 being
13:40:52 an important and
13:40:55 motivating top for the At-Large
13:40:57
in the
13:40:59 coming year.
Next slide ised
13:41:02 .
One of the things I did
13:41:05 for this presentation to you all,
13:41:07
was to think a little before it about what some
13:41:09 of our
audience
13:41:11 s are and what in
13:41:15 some of our purposes are. They
13:41:17 might
help to think about, what
13:41:20 kind of content the
13:41:22 At-Large would
want to create
13:41:24 and for whom. And we shouldn't make
13:41:26 the
mistake that
13:41:28 everything we create is for all
13:41:31 audiences. Or
they will end
13:41:33 up not being particular good
13:41:35 for any of them.
13:41:37
It's just some things I thought
13:41:40 of,
13:41:42 purposes education,
broadly
13:41:44 recruitment. Training of people that
13:41:46 already been
recruited, inspiration
13:41:49 for people potentially
13:41:54 to come to
action. And
13:41:56 then finally advocacy.
13:41:58 And then I saw
13:42:00 a few
audiences that
13:42:02 we might be trying to reach out
13:42:05 to with our
content. One is
13:42:07 the ICANN community
13:42:09 itself, the broader
ICANN community.
13:42:11 It can either be about the
13:42:13 role of At-Large
or just an issue
13:42:15 that we want to get more people in
13:42:17 the ICANN
community
13:42:19 thinking in the way
13:42:22 that we are.
13:42:24 For example, we could produce
13:42:26 a video about our perspective
13:42:29
on the EDPD process
13:42:31 or GDPR
13:42:34 compliance and the impact on end
users.
13:42:36 We could be talking about
13:42:38 a video about
13:42:42 the PIR
acquisition
13:42:44 to the extent
13:42:47 to which we are concerned about the
impact on users
13:42:49 .
Things like that, where we can
13:42:52 make it available for a tool
in the ICANN
13:42:54 community to understand what it is that we are
13:42:56
trying to get across and get some
13:42:59 other constituencies on
13:43:01
board.
Then there's the At-Large
13:43:04 community itself as it exists
13:43:06
today and educational
13:43:09 component if we want to teach people
13:43:11
about an issue, or especially
13:43:13 the people that are not always
in
13:43:15 the room with us. The people
13:43:17 that you remember,
13:43:20 RALOS and
13:43:22
AOSs it can be content and
13:43:24 material created for them.
13:43:27 Geek
theogy names video
13:43:30 I did sort of falls into
13:43:32 that category.
There can be
13:43:34 training and this is some of the stuff Joanna
13:43:36
already talked about. How
13:43:38 to do policy development when
you're in
13:43:40 the At-Large. How to do outreach.
13:43:43 All of those
things can also
13:43:45 be done as videos. And the idea
13:43:47 of
inspiringation. The idea
13:43:50 behind the DNS abuse
13:43:52 session that I
did. It really was
13:43:54 aimed at those that already know what
13:43:56 the
At-Large is, to say
13:43:58 let's get together and make sure that
13:44:01 we
are all feeling about about taking
13:44:03 on DNS abuse
13:44:06 . all know
the talking points going
13:44:08 forward.
Then the motion of
13:44:11 potential At-Largeers. Which are the
people
13:44:12 that are out there,
13:44:15 whether it's academics or other
students
13:44:17 or members of ALSes et cetera
13:44:19 , that we think are
good audience
13:44:21 for people that
13:44:23 could become active numbers in
the
13:44:26 At-Large. They could use just about any
13:44:28 of these types
of videos. So,
13:44:31 aiming things at them
13:44:33 where we they know
where At-Large and ICANN is
13:44:35 , and they are trying to decide,
trying
13:44:38 to get them involved or try
13:44:40 to help them understand
what is being involved
13:44:43 in being involved.
Et cetera
13:44:45 . That's a particular
13:44:47 audience.
Then finally,
13:44:49 ironically probably the
13:44:52 audience we have dealt
13:44:53
with the least are end
13:44:56 users themselves.
One of the
13:44:59 thing she suggested during the
13:45:01 DNS abuse session
and
13:45:03 ICANN 67 is we would be attempted
13:45:05 to do some education of
end users
13:45:07 . And kind of avail ourselves
13:45:10 of the enormous
network
13:45:12 that we have built
13:45:15 to push information out to end
users
13:45:17 about said use and
13:45:19 how social engineering
13:45:23 works, how
the spot a
13:45:25 fishing email and things like
13:45:27 that. Things that
would be square
13:45:31 ly at the ICANN
13:45:33 or ICANN development or
At-Large
13:45:35 or simply end users who
13:45:37 we are attempting
13:45:42 of whose
interest we are trying to represent
13:45:45 . That's a potential
audience
13:45:47 for content creation as well
13:45:49 . Any questions about
this
13:45:51 ?
13:45:53
Did you want to say something
13:45:55 ?
13:45:59
>> Jonathan I can see your position is
13:46:01 really great. And
13:46:04 if
we come
13:46:06 to join, looks like we
13:46:09 got key inputs that you can
see. Much
13:46:11 in videos
13:46:13 you have created could they be added to
the
13:46:17 You Tube channel and At-Large.
13:46:19 I think that also the
social
13:46:21 media working group also has the test
13:46:24 to keep on
sharing those videos.
13:46:26 In their respective
13:46:28 areas. And if
they can monitor traction
13:46:30 . I'm not sure, I don't know
13:46:33 can
some analytics
13:46:35 be put behind the perspective
13:46:37 videos? In
13:46:40 that
we will be able to know
13:46:41 the distribution of accessibility
13:46:45 of
those videos. I think
13:46:46 that helps [Dan
13:46:49 yell] and I think also
what
13:46:51 comes to mind is if the
13:46:53 possible we could have to
13:46:55
coordinate together with
13:46:58 CPWG in having that list T social
13:47:00
media weekly teams.
13:47:02 For instance we can probably
13:47:04 have the
last week focusing
13:47:07 on ADP D or
13:47:09 DNS views. And once the
videos
13:47:12 are shared a list can act as
13:47:14 a formal capacity
building
13:47:16 . And, also, to enable
13:47:18 the members understand
exactly what
13:47:20 is transparent in reference
13:47:23 of the the
respective policies
13:47:25 that are being discussed
13:47:29 .
Within At-Large and, also, ICANN At-Large
13:47:31 .
With that, I don't know that there's something
13:47:33 to add on,
but
13:47:35 Natalia also has her hands
13:47:37 up. Natalia what would you
like
13:47:40 to say?
>> Natalia
13:47:43 : Thank you very much Daniel.
13:47:45 Natalia speaking.
I'd like
13:47:48 to share my point of view
13:47:50 on this truth on
13:47:53 of this.
First of all,
13:47:55 I'd like the say we are used to seeing
13:47:57 our
outreach and engagement
13:47:59 work is work outside work
13:48:01 .
But I think in this
13:48:04 , very hard
13:48:06 situation,
13:48:08 it all changed
13:48:10 our
lecture.
And I think
13:48:13 that we should now
13:48:15 pay our attention not just
13:48:17 on
the -- in
13:48:20 there but the possibilities of working who
13:48:22 is an
13:48:25
certainly EDNs. Because all they said yesterday
13:48:27 or two days
ago or a week,
13:48:29 we all have thousands.
13:48:31 We are starting to use
13:48:33
our current members.
13:48:35 With this lack of face-to-face
13:48:39 evens
physical opportunity to see each
13:48:41 other and do something
together,
13:48:43 I mean even.
So,
13:48:47 therefore in addition to focus
13:48:49 ing on where we talk
communications
13:48:51 and out to reach events, are
13:48:53 now we should
13:48:55
think about working
13:48:59 to involve one current members. And
13:49:01 IOS
members
13:49:03 . I mean
13:49:05 additional people in our policy work or
13:49:07 walk
and J element. So this
13:49:10 perspective,
13:49:12 does the first place our
capacity
13:49:15 building work first. And
13:49:18 way important
13:49:20 to think
about of
13:49:22 our internal communications too
13:49:25 .
So, of course
13:49:28 if I may start now
13:49:30 to say about our
13:49:32 social
media.
13:49:35 What -- I think of course
13:49:37 we need to think of the
13:49:39
books now and we need
13:49:41 to create
13:49:43 I think I don't know.
13:49:46 Maybe
new very useful tools
13:49:48 .
From our
13:49:50 audience. Our prime end
13:49:53 users.
So we need
13:49:55 to create and post more videos
13:49:58 . Because our
leaders
13:50:00 , leaders of At-Large
13:50:03 are really
13:50:06 I don't know to say
it, really inspiration
13:50:09 of people we need
13:50:12 not to entertain our
audience
13:50:14 . But we need
13:50:25 to give more annual updates
13:50:25 and
explanation of our work, our
13:50:25 role in ICANN our processes
13:50:26 , why
easier
13:50:26 way and interesting language for people
13:50:27 .
Because not so much
13:50:30 technical people
13:50:32 , I think our
13:50:36 we can
awful join in guys
13:50:39 .
So about
13:50:42 our previous talk I can. ACs
13:50:44 and young people that
can join us
13:50:47 .
Academics.
Now I
13:50:49 see our great
13:50:51 potential in direction with
13:50:54 for
example like in
13:50:58 you'ral IGF
13:51:00 movement. Sooming it is not
about
13:51:03 [indiscernible] because
13:51:06 this movement share
13:51:10 their
activities. And we can
13:51:13 see or
13:51:15 sync into about our
13:51:17 joint
force this this work. Which
13:51:20 to you and educational
13:51:23
institutions.
And in such
13:51:26 UNs that join
13:51:28 offers for
13:51:30 this
13:51:32 outing if we meet
each
13:51:35 other in Poland
13:51:37 .
And, as my colleagues
13:51:39 said, academia
13:51:42 is we are a special
audience
13:51:44 researchers too. And I think we need
13:51:47 to show them
very
13:51:49 especially benefits to join us we
13:51:52 need have
13:51:54 mutual
interests. And I think
13:51:57 it's just only if
13:52:01 good and nice way
13:52:03 to
involve more people from this audience
13:52:06 too.
Thank you very much
13:52:10 .
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: Thank you very much
13:52:13 Natalia for that.
At this point I'd
13:52:16 like to call upon a volunteer
13:52:18 that would be
able to walk
13:52:20 with Jonathan Zack on developing
13:52:23 the different
perspective policy
13:52:25 related videos.
13:52:28 Where also act as
cognition
13:52:30 point together with the social media
13:52:32 working group
leads
13:52:36 .
To share this respective
13:52:38 videos about the given period of
time
13:52:40 . Can we have any volunteers
13:52:43 from the clock
13:52:45 ?
13:52:47
>> JONATHAN ZUCK: I think particular of what we are talking
about
13:52:49 doing is maybe creating some kind of
13:52:52 a subcommittee
that
13:52:54 works on identifying what videos it is
13:52:56 that we would
might actually want
13:52:58 to create. And then
13:53:01 design them and
assign a
13:53:04 -- the equivalent of a pen holder
13:53:07 for the creation
of that video
13:53:10 .
I don't have a list of videos I'm
13:53:12 trying to create
13:53:14
necessarily. That's part of what I wanted to discuss
13:53:17 . How
we go about deciding
13:53:19 what content we want to create
13:53:21 . Because
a
13:53:23 perfect example
13:53:25 of this is on the issue
13:53:27 of DNS abuse. As
13:53:29 I
started to do
13:53:32 research it became
13:53:33 clear that the DNS
13:53:35 abuse is
not even terminology
13:53:38 that could be socialized outside of
ICANN
13:53:41 there's not even a Wiki
13:53:43 page, Wikipedia
13:53:45 page on DNS
abuse
13:53:49 people. People have learned about individual
13:53:51 things,
like fishing and farming.
13:53:53 Not in the context
13:53:55 of DNS so do we
13:53:57
want to be socially I'ding the term of
13:53:59 DNS abuse
13:54:02 out or
sticking
13:54:04 to vocabulary they already know
13:54:06 like cyber crime.
And, also,
13:54:09 is this an area we want
13:54:11 to create content or just
look for the content
13:54:13 that is already out there. Such
13:54:15 as the
videos that are created by
13:54:17 FTC for example.
Maybe do
13:54:20 some translation. And then
13:54:22 use our infrastructure
13:54:24
to give them
13:54:27 better visual or distribution. So I feel like
those
13:54:29 kinds of decisions are
13:54:32 decisions that should have been
made than by
13:54:34 me in particular. That
13:54:36 what content do we want
to create
13:54:39 ? What content do we
13:54:41 want to borrow
13:54:43 .
Versus what content do we
13:54:46 want the distribute. I hope those
13:54:48
questions make sense, that's what I was trying
13:54:51 to get at as
13:54:53
the --
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: Okay
13:54:55 .
>> JONATHAN ZUCK: So that's why I started talk about
13:54:57 this
issue more generally. I feel
13:54:59 likes it's an ongoing
conversation,
13:55:01 to figure out what type of
13:55:03 describedose would
be useful. Like I said
13:55:06 , the conversation we just had,
13:55:09
suggests there needs to be a better
13:55:11 presentation of just what
At-Large is
13:55:13 , for example
13:55:15 .
Then currently
13:55:19 exists.
The rest of my presentation
13:55:21 was also to talk a little about
13:55:23
the fact that videos don't need
13:55:25 to be intimidating.
13:55:28 All the
videos from me
13:55:30 are created in PowerPoint. They are not using
13:55:32
the other tools that I use as a film
13:55:34 maker like premier
13:55:36 or
after effects or anything like that.
13:55:38 They literally all
13:55:40 have
been created via the capabilities
13:55:43 of PowerPoint. The other
question I was
13:55:45 going to ask is
13:55:47 whether or not I should try to
teach
13:55:49 a class or record a
13:55:51 class on how to create a video on
13:55:53
PowerPoint or keynote,
13:55:55 et cetera. Really anyone can do
13:55:57 it,
it's not a technical
13:56:00 skill
13:56:03 .
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: Okay,
13:56:05 .
>> JONATHAN ZUCK: Sounds like we are running you out of
13:56:07
time sorry
13:56:09 .
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: Thank you very much Jonathan. At this
13:56:11
point since time is not our best friend I'm
13:56:13 going to create
an action point.
13:56:15 We call a team of volunteers to be
13:56:18 able to
have this
13:56:20 discussion on video presentation and
13:56:22 discussing of
the
13:56:24 different perspective thinks
13:56:27 things. This will be a group
13:56:30 that
will be comprised of
13:56:32 a little member. List one
13:56:34 or two
members from the
13:56:36 socially working group and one or
13:56:38 two
members from CPWG
13:56:40 and one or go members from
13:56:42 the office team.
And I think that would be great
13:56:44 . And, also, I take
13:56:46 a class
would be so great to be
13:56:49 able to trained on how to create
13:56:51
these medias.
So with this, allow
13:56:53 me to get into the next
13:56:56 item on the
agenda
13:56:59 .
Which is
13:57:01 discussion with different
13:57:03 social media working
13:57:05
group regional presenttives
13:57:07 how to implement the
13:57:10 various
strategy for
13:57:12 implement during the time. What would be
13:57:14
recommended
13:57:17 outcome social media working group
13:57:19 . Would they
be a list
13:57:21 of on plan
13:57:24 plan for O/E
13:57:26 .
Or daily tweets
13:57:28 targeted for people
13:57:30 and would close
13:57:32 if who
may be at home on the
13:57:34 call to give us at least brief
13:57:36 updates
13:57:41 .
Who is available on the call?
13:57:43 To be able
13:57:45 to go fast
13:57:59 .
Could I please know over the
13:58:02 respective different
13:58:04 regional
representatives working group? Available on
13:58:06 the call?
13:58:16
Okay, apparently it seems
13:58:18 there's none that is ready to take
up the
13:58:20 floor.
I'll just simply skip
13:58:22 that item on the agenda
13:58:25 .
And, also, since we have been having
13:58:27 various discussions
about how to engage
13:58:31 your social media may be proceed
13:58:33 to
agenda item number
13:58:35 5 which is regarding to At-Large
13:58:37
communication strategy. Let me
13:58:40 give the floor to Maureen
13:58:42 to
work us through the communication strategy
13:58:45 .
>> MAUREEN HILYARD: Thank you Daniel
13:58:48 . I hope I can
13:58:50 be
heard
13:58:52 .
Right, can we have
13:58:55 a copy of the
13:58:58 spreadsheet.
13:59:00 Please
13:59:05 am I
competing with someone else online
13:59:08 ?
Okay. One
13:59:10 of the things that
13:59:12 well it actually being
13:59:15 uploaded, one of the things
13:59:17 she just puppet for comment
13:59:19 out
to At-Large is
13:59:22 of course the draft At-Large
13:59:24 communications
strategy
13:59:26 .
One of the things that you
13:59:28 know we -- I did decide
13:59:31 when we
were
13:59:34 ATLAS was the need to make sure we
13:59:36 got the right
13:59:39 kind of
messages out to the targeted
13:59:41 groups that we were focusing on.
Up with
13:59:43 of the most important ones
13:59:45 of course at the Monday
13:59:48
trial meeting was the ICANN
13:59:50 community itself sew,
13:59:53 Jonathan
was very much part
13:59:55 of that by providing us
13:59:57 with talking
points for the
13:59:59 policy. It was really good to be able
14:00:02 to take
these. Use the
14:00:04 communication model to try and
14:00:07 get those
messages that you
14:00:09 know bethought were important at
14:00:11 that
particular point this time to get out, you
14:00:14 know any
conversations that
14:00:17 we could have wherever.
But, so
14:00:19 that when we were developing
14:00:21 the communications
strategy at
14:00:23 that particular point in time, we wanted
14:00:26 to
ensure that the strategy
14:00:28 itself was simple
14:00:31 , format was clear,
14:00:33
search. The message and
14:00:35 the methodology weighs
14:00:37 easy to
understand and
14:00:40 like a very
14:00:42 simplified model. I think that
14:00:44
communications ICANN
14:00:47 communications
14:00:51 gave us
14:00:53 was really very
useful
14:00:55 and we were actually we were
14:00:59 actually able to put it
into practice. We
14:01:01 found it valuable
14:01:04 to it was easy to relate
to
14:01:06 .
So, this way
14:01:09 therefore we have focused
14:01:11 our At-Large strategy
14:01:13
on based it on the
14:01:15 same model.
One of the things
14:01:17 that sort of like
14:01:20 you know, I mean
14:01:22 this is
encompassing
14:01:24 , this strategy
14:01:26 does encompass and
14:01:28 focuses on the
14:01:31
3 areas of priority activities within
14:01:33 At-Large. And of
course,
14:01:35 they are outreach and engagement
14:01:37 . A big session on
it.
14:01:39 But there's also a policy and you
14:01:41 know the strategy
14:01:43 has
ever these being cropped
14:01:46 w developed even within the policy,
14:01:48
the policy platform and talking points
14:01:50 there's already some
idea -- people
14:01:52 are already gathering to give some idea of
14:01:54
what the communication needs
14:01:57 with the policy. With an
organization,
14:02:00 of course, that sort of like anything
14:02:02 that
isn't policy and outreach.
14:02:05 That it incorporates a lot
14:02:07 of the
partnership activities that we have
14:02:10 with other communities
within ICANN
14:02:12 . The sorts of things that
14:02:15 are very important
14:02:17 to
At-Large.
14:02:19 But are not part of
14:02:22 the core activities which you
14:02:24
and this group and the policy group
14:02:26 are engaged
14:02:29 .
I think that one of the important things
14:02:31 about this meeting
and the discussions that
14:02:33 we have just had is that
14:02:36 we have
actually identified the needs of
14:02:38 the many communities that
the outreach
14:02:40 and engagement group are
14:02:42 going to, like
14:02:44 having
to interact with and
14:02:48 finding one 8th
14:02:50 of how are you going
14:02:53 to
incorporate those -- the different
14:02:57 needs of interesting new
you are going to be
14:02:59 required to meet the
14:03:01 needs of the
different
14:03:04 group within At-Large
14:03:06 .
We are going from extremes of
14:03:09 people this that know nothing,
14:03:10
to you know the academic level now
14:03:13 . There's a big range of
14:03:15
people in between. So,
14:03:18 it's how do you break those groups up
and how
14:03:21 are our ambassadors
14:03:23 within the community going the
communicate
14:03:26 , it's important to all of those
14:03:27 different groups
appropriately.
So,
14:03:30 I think that one of the things that like
14:03:32 I would like
14:03:34 to
see, even when
14:03:36 you select commenting on the At-Large
14:03:38 strategy
but also be looking at,
14:03:40 you know within the outreach and
engagement
14:03:43 , what sort of communications
14:03:45 strategy are you
going
14:03:48 to have to build, especially in leave it
14:03:50 of the new
environment on
14:03:52 which we are working.
Face-to-face
14:03:54 is not owing
14:03:56 to be the most
14:04:00 plopper way of
working with communities
14:04:02 . And sore of the of like
14:04:05 in the
near future. Going down the
14:04:07 track, maybe.
Look at
14:04:09 , your strategies got to be looking at
14:04:12 , if we can't
do it face-to-face,
14:04:14 what are the alternatives.
14:04:16 It's got to
be quite encompassing
14:04:18 . You got really excellent people
within
14:04:20 this team and I'm sure you can
14:04:22 , that the strategy that
14:04:25
you develop for this particular
14:04:28 group, working group,
14:04:30
incorporating all of those things you need
14:04:33 to do is possible.
And you
14:04:36 know,
14:04:39 I mean Jonathan
14:04:40 already provided
14:04:42 like some
identified sort of
14:04:44 the areas that we
14:04:47 need to be
14:04:49 focusing on.
That he
14:04:51 can use video with
14:04:53 . But
14:04:55 there are already other
methodologies
14:04:58 that have already been started. Going to be
included
14:05:00 . That are specific
14:05:02 on the outreach and engagement
14:05:05 .
So any questions?
14:05:08
Happy to take them
14:05:15 or leave them with you, and let you
14:05:17 sort
of like ruminate over
14:05:20 them and just work with
14:05:22 them as
appropriate.
14:05:25
Thank you Daniel.
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: Thank you very much
14:05:27 Maureen. Welcome
questions
14:05:29 regarding to the strategy
14:05:32 .
Does anyone have any
14:05:34 questions?
14:05:37 Going once, going
14:05:39 twice.
Okay, since we are not
14:05:41 having any questions, I'd like
14:05:44 to
thank you Maureen for that presentation
14:05:46 . There's a lot that
is being
14:05:48 done especially to alter strategies
14:05:50 to be able to
fit with
14:05:52 online the presence
14:05:55 online office engagement. I
think
14:05:57 that's still some work that
14:05:59 has got to be done
regarding the strategy
14:06:02 , thank you very much for that.
The next
14:06:04 on my agenda, we need a
14:06:06 list of group update
14:06:08 on the
ICANN
14:06:13 2020 I'll give the floor to Adam
14:06:15 . Adam you have the
floor
14:06:18 .
>> ADAM
14:06:21 PEAKE:
14:06:23 Hi everybody. Apologies, I was trying
14:06:26 to
unmute as
14:06:29 usual p not very much to update
14:06:31 at the moment. We
are like
14:06:33 everybody wondering what is happening
14:06:35 with the
world.
14:06:37 However,
14:06:39 ICANN is intending to be there.
14:06:42 ICANN Org,
I mean with the usually
14:06:44 types of participation
14:06:46 sessions.
Open
14:06:48 forum.
14:06:52 Day zero event and consideration at
14:06:54 the moment
of whether or not
14:06:56 to submit an ICANN
14:07:00 Org type of sessions
request workshop
14:07:03 request
14:07:05 .
That will probably be
14:07:08 this year and that's something again
we are
14:07:10 considering. That would be open
14:07:12 to sharing unless
14:07:14 you
decide to go down your own path.
14:07:17 And that's really a
decision for
14:07:19 the At-Large
14:07:21 .
We haven't had any internal
14:07:23 calls about this at the moment.
You are
14:07:25 probably seeing there's deadlines
14:07:27 coming up and they
pulled
14:07:30 the 15th for
14:07:32 various thing you may
14:07:34 want to consider,
that's all I need
14:07:36 to the website.
14:07:39 I think that's probe about
it. Other
14:07:41 than to say, this really goes bag
14:07:43 to the academic
topic we spoke of earlier
14:07:46 . We will be
14:07:48 supporting in small
way
14:07:51 , the group
14:07:53 the academics of governance
14:07:56 that always meet
on day zero of the
14:07:58 IGF and
14:08:00 Joanna on planning
14:08:03 an event for
post docs or
14:08:06 Ph.D. students after the
14:08:08 IGF and we will be
14:08:11 best
to support one way or another. But
14:08:13 it's the best at the
moment to look at
14:08:15 IGF website, look
14:08:17 at the deadlines and
consider what
14:08:19 you're going to submit for
14:08:23 your selves. And
14:08:25 it
is again, if it's an
14:08:28 ICANN you are more than welcome
14:08:30 the
share, that's the decision you may
14:08:32 need the Mike if you
14:08:35 want
independent or
14:08:38 not.
Thank you.
>> Adam you should mention about
14:08:40 the Webinar April
14:08:43 6th
14:08:48 .
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: Thank you very much Adam for that. I
think at this point
14:08:50 we need to set up at least a
14:08:52 workspace
for
14:08:55 the 2020 AGF
14:08:57 . So I'm going to request staff
14:08:59 to work on
that. And, also,
14:09:01 Judith mentioned there's going to be
14:09:05 an AGF
Webinar in the next two weeks.
14:09:06 Judith do you have a list
14:09:09 of
precise time the Webinar
14:09:11 will takes place I believe the
members will like
14:09:13 to know that.
>> JUDITH HELLERSTEIN: I think
14:09:16 it's April 6th but I can
forward an email
14:09:18 to the group.
14:09:21 Yeah,
14:09:24 Glen, thanks for
posting it
14:09:26 . April 6 at
14:09:28 1400 UTC
14:09:30 . And Glen has documented
this
14:09:32 on his IG
14:09:35 F page
14:09:38 .
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: Thank you very much Glen for that
information.
And, also,
14:09:42 Judith from sharing that perspective information
also
14:09:45 .
I think this discusses and preparations
14:09:47 will be going on.
14:09:50 I
14:09:52
also do them month updates as
14:09:54 AGF is one of the key
activities we
14:09:56 get involved in
14:09:58 .
Next we shall item on the agenda is you are
14:10:00 going to allow
us an update regarding
14:10:03 to the RALO discussion on
14:10:05 the Court
finding.
14:10:07 That was from start
14:10:10 and -- also, we should be able
14:10:12
to hear and have a discussion about the
14:10:14 various challenges
here. This is
14:10:17 the fact that the discussion
14:10:19 on the discussion
area
14:10:22 will be held more
14:10:24 comprehensively during the ALT
14:10:26 call.
I
14:10:28 talk about this
14:10:31 group discussion or this.
14:10:33 Hadia or
14:10:42 .
>> Mary, this is Heidi. Mine
14:10:44 will be really quick. Should
I good first
14:10:46 and hand it to you.
>> Mary
14:10:48 : Sure thing Heidi,
14:10:50 go ahead.
>> HEIDI ULLRICH: I wanted to show
14:10:53 you the ray low
discretionary
14:10:55 funding. I put it
14:10:57 into the chat [
14:10:59 RALO] if you
can scroll
14:11:01 down. This is a staff authorized
14:11:05 activity. We
14:11:07
closely with the chairs
14:11:09 regional leadership of the
14:11:11 RALOs to
help you with these
14:11:13 requests. Now,
14:11:16 there are -- this
requires a
14:11:18 3 week advanced notice. So there's still
14:11:20 time do
this, for fiscal
14:11:22 year 20. Keep in mind these activities
14:11:24 are
not just travel. There's a lot
14:11:27 of opportunity now
14:11:29 to have
activities such as printing.
14:11:31 If you might wish
14:11:33 to think
ahead to fiscal
14:11:35 year 21. You can
14:11:38 print materials now for
fiscal
14:11:40 rear 21. That's for sure
14:11:42 and you can do pro mogul
items
14:11:44 .
14:11:47 And this is partial true for the regions
14:11:50 having their
assemblies
14:11:52 that. The RALO and rack
14:11:54 RALO. And fiscal
14:11:56 21.
There's still a chance to go ahead and
14:11:58 submit the requests
here.
14:12:01 So, if there are any questions
14:12:03 here, again, this is
not the place
14:12:05 to talk about process.
14:12:08 That process is handled
at
14:12:10 the regional leadership level
14:12:12 not outreach and engagement.
14:12:14
So I would ask that you don't ask any
14:12:16 questions about the
process here.
And I'm
14:12:18 going the turn it over to Mary
14:12:21 to talk about
14:12:24 CROP
thank you
14:12:29 .
>> Mary: I see Judith has her hand up.
14:12:31 I don't know if
there was
14:12:33 a question.
>> HEIDI ULLRICH: It was a question.
14:12:35 You said
publications.
14:12:37 I thought public -- I
14:12:40 thought pro sures and
that type were
14:12:42 a different funding
14:12:44 treatment
14:12:48 .
>> JUDITH HELLERSTEIN: Like At-Large brochures
14:12:50 or the male
cards
14:12:52 or RALO brochures I thought
14:12:54 that was that different
funding
14:12:56 extreme.
>> HEIDI ULLRICH: So those are, again
14:12:58 , we are trying to
make them work closely
14:13:00 with the communications department and
14:13:03
those are
14:13:06 to be as extended length as
14:13:09 possible. So, are if
you would
14:13:11 like extra ones or if you want
14:13:13 special ones for a
particular policy
14:13:15 or particular event, that's
14:13:17 what I'm
talking
14:13:20 about. You see for example we had
14:13:22 a request from F
14:13:25
RALO of an event they were
14:13:27 holding they wanted it for that
event as well in
14:13:29 a local language. Those are the types of
event
14:13:31 . These are not necessarily the
14:13:34 RALO brochures we are a
talking about.
14:13:37 Or the male
14:13:41 mail cards we are talking about
14:13:47 .
>> JUDITH HELLERSTEIN: Thank you very much, I was a little
unclear
14:13:49 on that.
>> Marry
14:13:52 iy had Wo
14:13:57 ng: Heidi I'll jump in, I realize
14:13:59 we are
probably going to run out of time. I don't have
14:14:01 a
presentation or long update.
14:14:03 Heidi asked me to join this
call
14:14:05 just to take your questions and to give
14:14:07 you a sense of
where things
14:14:10 stand with CROP for the remainder
14:14:12 of this
financial year. Basically
14:14:14 as you will know, we are in a time
of
14:14:16 uncertainty. And you have probably
14:14:18 seen that ICANN
14:14:20 Org
has taken some measures
14:14:23 to try to address a few things
14:14:25 during
this current crisis.
First of
14:14:27 all, most of our staff
14:14:29 have been asked to work from
14:14:32
home at shall at possible
14:14:34 . And, also, in respect
14:14:38 to up
coming events you may have seen that
14:14:40 the GDD summit and
14:14:41
associated events that were planned for
14:14:44 early May have also
been cans
14:14:46 he had. This is all of course because of
14:14:47 COVID
189.
14:14:49 I see Glen the question in the
14:14:51 can chat,
14:14:54 for CROP we
are looking what ever funding
14:14:56 remains through each of
14:14:59 your
groups through June of this year. That's the end
14:15:01 of ICANN's
financial year
14:15:04 . So 30th June
14:15:06 2020.
First of all, I think the fact that
14:15:08 you're thinking about it
and looking
14:15:11 ahead is really great, it's really timely
14:15:13 . At
the same time there has not been
14:15:15 any decisions made beyond
the ones I just told
14:15:17 you. So it is basically a little bit at
14:15:20
a time
14:15:22 .
Exactly Glen. Some event
14:15:24 were canceled and given
14:15:26 the lead
time for travel,
14:15:28 I assume that any
14:15:30 additional remaining
trips, exactly
14:15:33 is the 8 weeks notice. We
14:15:36 looking presumeably
14:15:38
that trips some of you may take
14:15:41 to out reach in May and
June.
14:15:43 I see Dave your question about the
14:15:46 ICANN 68 meeting
14:15:48 no
decision has been reached or made
14:15:50 about that as of yet ICANN
14:15:53
or the board at this moment thinking through
14:15:55 not just ICANN
68 but
14:15:58 activities and priorities
14:16:00 going over the next few
months
14:16:02 . Because this
14:16:04 crept crisis has of course made it very
14:16:07
difficult for a lot of our community
14:16:09 members, ourselves
included as
14:16:11 well as staff given the demands of
14:16:14 family,
children and a whole bunch of other
14:16:16 things. We really need
14:16:18 they orient some of on the priorities and that's the
14:16:20
discussion that is happening internally and with
14:16:23 the board.
I'm sorry
14:16:25 , Mary, 6 weeks notice
14:16:27 . But regardless we are
looking at
14:16:29 May and June.
So what I can
14:16:31 say to you today, is that
14:16:33 at the
14:16:38 moment CROP
remains funded
14:16:39 the allocation are through the end of the
14:16:42
year, 30th of June
14:16:45 2020.
The situation is very dynamic
14:16:47 since trips funded by ICANN
14:16:50 to
the extent that a decision
14:16:52 is made within the next month
14:16:54 or
couple of months,
14:16:56 that would be no events and no travel,
14:16:58 that
will obviously
14:17:00 impact any proposals that
14:17:02 anyone may have made
under crop as
14:17:04 well.
So what I'll
14:17:07 say is that there are traps
14:17:09 that you are
planning to take, you
14:17:11 should go ahead and develop
14:17:13 the
proposal and you
14:17:16 pit in this accordance with the
14:17:18 6 weeks
deadline. But please be
14:17:20 prepared that things could change
and obviously
14:17:23 Heidi and her team and I will come
14:17:25 back to you
if there's anything we hear
14:17:27 about coming down the pike
14:17:29 .
But as of
14:17:31 nowers this is where things stand. I stop here
14:17:34 , I
see Olivier you have your hand
14:17:36 up and I am sure folks you
have
14:17:38 comments and questions as well
14:17:41 .
>> OLIVIER CREPIN-LEBLOND: Thank you very much Marie. And
14:17:43
thank you for coming on the call and pointing
14:17:46 out where ICANN
is
14:17:48 at the moment in this exceptional
14:17:51 circumstances.
The concern I have
14:17:53 with regards to CROP of
14:17:55 last years is
that we have
14:17:57 got the week's notice
14:18:00 that is required and of
course the
14:18:02 deadline for the fiscal year being the
14:18:04 end of
14:18:06
June.
And the at the same time we are
14:18:08 seeing growth growth in what
is going on
14:18:11 with the
14:18:14 COVID 19 vier e
14:18:16 virus. Airlines pretty
much out the business at the
14:18:18 moment
14:18:21 . Having down. And well
Olympic games over the
14:18:23 summer that have now been moved
14:18:25 to
next
14:18:27 year.
In Europe all events have
14:18:30 been canceled, all of the way up
14:18:32
to June. I can't think of a
14:18:34 single one that is remaining.
So in
14:18:36 our region it looks as though there's not
14:18:38 going to be
any opportunity
14:18:40 for trough trips. In fact the governor
14:18:42 is
not even letting you cross
14:18:44 the road these days. Let alone
14:18:46
going to get your daily food
14:18:48 .
So the concern I have is you know we have
14:18:50 got the
14:18:53
allocationas rightly mentioned
14:18:55 would there be a chance of
ICANN
14:18:58 reallocating this allocation so
14:19:00 we don't lose the funds
all together and
14:19:02 use this as a opportunity for us to perhaps
14:19:04
do is a bit more with the
14:19:07 discretionary funding. So as
14:19:10 to
prepare ourselves better for
14:19:12 the post
14:19:14 COVID 19 things we are
14:19:16
going to have to do. I know
14:19:18 it's impossible to, and we have
discussed
14:19:20 it on many occasions it's
14:19:23 impossible to transfer
funds from
14:19:25 one year to the next fiscal year
14:19:27 . But spending
the money this year on
14:19:29 stuff we can store in the meantime
14:19:32
such at what Heidi
14:19:34 was mentioning and pins
14:19:36 and stickers. All
of this
14:19:38 stuff could be something that might be helpful with
14:19:40 a
bit more funds rather than just
14:19:46 loosing them all together
14:19:50 .
>> Marie thanks very much
14:19:52 hi if Olivier and pointing out the
challenges
14:19:54 even if one where
14:19:56 to say it's a good opportunity
14:19:58
for a friendship a lot is canceled and
14:20:01 then the are you able
to get there given
14:20:02 what is happening to the airlines. Your
question
14:20:05 is similar on the something
14:20:08 Glen and alley asked in
the chat as well. And
14:20:10 as you rightly point out,
14:20:13 it's not so
much carrying
14:20:15 forward the funds because of the way to the
budgeting
14:20:17 and planning cycles run
14:20:19 , it will be a new
allocation essentially
14:20:21 for FY 21 which
14:20:23 starts in the first of
July.
14:20:26 So this is part of the
14:20:28 internal list of
14:20:31 pending
discuss that need to be made
14:20:34 .
Our team has already raised
14:20:37 it to exzero reand
14:20:40 the finance
team in terms of what
14:20:42 allocation is made
14:20:44 to CROP for FY
14:20:47 1 or
what changes or made to the
14:20:50 Avrien
14:20:52 develop he opens tore FY
14:20:54
21. There's a question we raised.
14:20:57 There's no decision as of
yet. But hopefully
14:20:59 once some of the internal
14:21:02 and board
discussions moved along
14:21:04 and I anticipate this will happen in
the
14:21:06 next couple or few weeks, we will get a
14:21:09 lot more clarity
over
14:21:11 travel for the next few months to the end
14:21:13 of this
financial year.
14:21:15 And we also get some
14:21:18 clarity over whether
14:21:20
there's any additional available allocation
14:21:22 for CROP and the
14:21:25 ABRS for FY
14:21:27 21. I hope that answers yours and
14:21:29 the other's
questions as
14:21:31 well
14:21:38 .
[Mary
14:21:40 Wong]
14:21:44
Daniel, I don't know if there's other questions
14:21:46 or comments.
It doesn't seem like
14:21:49 it. I'm happy to stay so the call even
14:21:51
if you want to move to your next agenda
14:21:53 item.
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: Thank you very much
14:21:56 Mary for that.
Actually, I don't
14:21:58 see any questions. Not on the call,
14:22:00 it
seems they have all been answered.
14:22:02 Some that were on the
chat
14:22:04 , have already been answered by you
14:22:07 . Let's wait for next
session. I can
14:22:09 see a
14:22:11 hand up.
>> Yes
14:22:13 they say.
>> JUDITH HELLERSTEIN: For the record. I guess
14:22:16 the
question is
14:22:18 Mary, because of
14:22:20 the six weeks pro deadline
14:22:22 , you
are saying that we should try
14:22:25 to go ahead and
14:22:27 if something is
not canceled
14:22:30 yet for June and schedulite
14:22:32 just in case. Many
we
14:22:34 see something
14:22:37 .
But,
14:22:39 there's no guarantee that
14:22:42 it could fall a part but
14:22:44 you
are saying we should go ahead. And
14:22:46 you are saying, the other
question
14:22:48 I was not clear on that, were you saying
14:22:52 that
potentially depending on
14:22:54 how the board or others act,
14:22:56 we may
14:22:59
get additional slots. So instead
14:23:01 of the 3, we
14:23:03 get a forth
one because so many of
14:23:05 the events that was supposed
14:23:07 to happen
in this corner
14:23:10 have been moved to September.
14:23:12 And maybe I
wasn't -- I
14:23:14 wanted to speak clear that. So
14:23:16 thank so much
14:23:22 .
>> MIKE BRENNAN: No worries Judith I'll
14:23:24 try to be as clear
as possible
14:23:26 [Mary] don't take it
14:23:29 that I or anyone at ICANN
14:23:31
Org is telling you go out and spend the money now
14:23:33 and plan
for a trip, because
14:23:35 the money won't always about
14:23:37 there. We
are definitely not saying that
14:23:39 . What I am saying
14:23:41 as part of
each
14:23:44 Ralos planning. You all had
14:23:47 a specific part as part of
14:23:48
planning its possibility that there's an
14:23:50 event or something
you may be planning
14:23:53 to do between now and the end of June.
14:23:56
The current CROP guidelines rules and
14:23:59 processes continue to
apply. If you
14:24:01 were going the put in a trip
14:24:03 proposal for late
14:24:06
May or applied June at this point
14:24:08 for example. You should
14:24:10
plan to r are are
14:24:12 on continuing to develop your plan for
that.
14:24:14 But just know that between now and
14:24:17 that trip, or even
between
14:24:19 now and the next few
14:24:21 weeks, the decisions that
14:24:23 ICANN
board and can management may
14:24:26 make may effect whether or not
we are able
14:24:28 to fund that proposal.
So
14:24:30 I hope that's clear.
So we are
14:24:32 not changing the rules on you, right
14:24:34 now. And I
don't know that
14:24:37 we are actually changing the rules at all
14:24:39 .
Is just that decisions may need to be
14:24:41 made in light of to the
crisis that
14:24:44 will effect travel for everyone
14:24:46 .
Staff community and the board through the
14:24:48 end of June and
14:24:50
may be even beyond. We are just not
14:24:52 in the position so
14:24:54 say
whether that's the case or
14:24:56 not if.
In regards to the next
14:24:58 financial year, September as example
14:25:00
you mentioned this is
14:25:02 something eternally
14:25:04 exoffia and the
executives are aware of
14:25:07 because we raced them. I don't know
14:25:09
when the decision will be made, because they are
14:25:11 taking into
account all of the
14:25:13 different contingencies
14:25:15 financial issues
and so forth but they are
14:25:17 aware that this is something that
they will
14:25:19 need to look at
14:25:21 given that some of these
14:25:24 outreach
opportunities
14:25:26 necessarily will have to be rescheduled
14:25:28 .
Whether that's a possibility for
14:25:30 FY 21 the envelope can be
14:25:32
increased to accommodate that.
14:25:34 Then I wanted to highlight
also
14:25:37 something that Glen I think said in the chat. If you
14:25:39
are out of pocket by
14:25:41 anything, you want to be careful at this
14:25:43
point in time. Because a lot
14:25:45 if on these issues about
14:25:47
whether you you get a refund on the cancellation
14:25:49 , that's not
something that either ICANN
14:25:51 or Org or even our travel
14:25:54 agent
can control. That's really up on the airlines
14:25:56 and hotels and
venues and
14:25:58 the like.
I think there's another hand
14:26:01 in this chat. Is it
14:26:04
14:26:07
Yrjolansipuro
14:26:09 .
>> Yes. Thank you. I mean
14:26:11 , take -- looking at
14:26:13 those
predictions and curves
14:26:15 of how they at
14:26:18 least epidemic will be
14:26:20 ,
epidemic
14:26:22 will develop we can forget
14:26:24 about physical travel and
meetings
14:26:27 . Physical meetings for this
14:26:29 financial years for the
rest of this financial year.
14:26:31 So my question is, is
14:26:33 it
possible to use
14:26:36 that money for at
14:26:39 a virtual equivalent
14:26:42 to say
for virtual meetings
14:26:46 . So, in moment cases they are free as
14:26:48
far as
14:26:50 use are concerned but there's many
14:26:52 cases where
participating in a
14:26:55 virtual
14:26:57 conference causes some costs.
14:26:59 So
my question is, is it possible
14:27:02 to use this
14:27:04 money since fizz
canical travel is
14:27:06 not possible. To use it for
14:27:08 the
equivalent, for the virtual
14:27:10 conferences.
14:27:14 Thank you.
>> Mary Wong
14:27:16 : Thank you very much for that question Euro
14:27:19 .
That's a good question and I will
14:27:21 say at the moment, that
14:27:23
sort of attendance and
14:27:26 spend isn't contemplated by
14:27:28 the
current CROP guidelines. But I
14:27:30 also say that obviously
14:27:32 the
current CROP guidelines were
14:27:34 for a different time and it's
not
14:27:37 the same at all as the situation
14:27:39 we find ourselves in
now.
So
14:27:41 what else I'll say is that I will
14:27:43 certainly take
14:27:46 this
suggestion back to the management at
14:27:48 ICANN organize and the
board
14:27:51 . So if a decisions is made
14:27:53 that effects the crop
14:27:56
program and travel within
14:27:58 the CROP program within a year they
14:28:00
consider you other alternatives that
14:28:02 can allow the community
14:28:04
to achieve itself outreach goals.
14:28:06 Maybe not in the same way
14:28:08
but go some way in addressing
14:28:11 the outreach strategies and
14:28:14 I
hope that
14:28:17 helpful.
>> It is
14:28:21 .
>> GLENN McKNIGHT: How about a stipend for
14:28:23 us for Tylenol
or
14:28:24 bottles of wine.
14:28:26 Since we are on so many calls, what do
you think
14:28:29 of that idea?
14:28:31
>> Mary Wong: Glen you
14:28:33 always have the best idea ideas. I
think
14:28:35 a lot of people, the need
14:28:38 for sustenance to get through
this
14:28:41 time.
>> GLENN McKNIGHT: Just
14:28:43 joking.
[chuckling].
14:28:50
>> Mary Wong: I'll hand
14:28:53 I back to you
14:28:56 .
>> JUDITH HELLERSTEIN: There's a couple of comments on the
chat
14:28:58 on whether payments can we use some of
14:29:00 this
discretionally or
14:29:03 other funds to pay for
14:29:05 Internet
connections?
14:29:11
>> Mary wonk: Judith
14:29:13 if that's a question for me,
14:29:15 I'm
afraid I can't answer that
14:29:17 . That's obviously
14:29:20 not covered
within CROP this
14:29:22 question was raised in the
14:29:24 ICANN 67 and the
14:29:26
what we issued then
14:29:28 regrettably unfortunately
14:29:30 said that's not
something
14:29:32 ICANN Org can
14:29:34 cover.
>> JUDITH HELLERSTEIN: Thank you so much. I saw it
14:29:36 in the
chat that's why I mentioned
14:29:39 it
14:29:41 .
>> GLENN McKNIGHT: Thank you very much Mary for that and
thank you all
14:29:44 for your regarding
14:29:48 to perspective updates
regarding CROP.
One of
14:29:50 the last updates on the agenda
14:29:52 the regional plans
14:29:54 and
I think our co-chairs are
14:29:56 willing to give updates. Let me
give
14:29:59 the floor to Glen to give
14:30:01 us an update
14:30:03 on
14:30:05 the Strat eek
I can plan. Glen, you have
14:30:07 the floor
14:30:18 .
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: Glen are you on the call
14:30:20 ?
>> HEIDI ULLRICH: Can yell
14:30:22 we are now at time. We need to
first
14:30:24 ask the interpreters if we can
14:30:27 extend. But also, if I
14:30:29
just might note
14:30:31 that we are hoping that
14:30:33 the co-chairs are
working closely
14:30:35 with the regional leadership on this
14:30:37 . And
even beyond
14:30:40 that, given the situation and the
14:30:42 need for
streamlining and
14:30:44 coordination, on the regional plans
14:30:46 . It
might be really useful
14:30:49 if we can set up
14:30:51 regional calls with
each
14:30:53 regional team. That includes
14:30:55 the co-chairs of outreach
14:30:57
and engagement group and the
14:30:59 regional leadership and
14:31:01 GNC and
staff supporting your regions to make
14:31:04 sure that your
14:31:06 plans
take into account
14:31:08 what might be situation next year
14:31:10 . And
plan all of
14:31:12 your activities more efficiently. So I'm
14:31:15 not if
that -- if you would like
14:31:17 to move ahead that way. Much just
given
14:31:20 the time.
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: Okay,
14:31:22 thank you very much Heidi for
that suggestion. By
14:31:24 that suggestion, and
14:31:26 I think we can set
that present action
14:31:28 point. So the co-chairs
14:31:31 , GSE and
14:31:33 the ray
low leaders can
14:31:35 have each call respectively
14:31:37 to discuss their
strategy plans. Probably we can
14:31:39 do that before the next call
14:31:41
then and during the next call
14:31:43 we can be able to have
14:31:45 updates
regarding to where we are
14:31:48 at the regional
14:31:51 surgy plan. Spoke
that and walk that
14:31:53 effectively. Yes.
With that, I'm
14:31:56 going to suggest that
14:31:58 the next call will be
14:32:00
happening
14:32:05 in the same time next
14:32:08 year. Next month. And
14:32:10 we
shall be able to keep you updated
14:32:12 . I would like to thank
14:32:15 our
interpreters,
14:32:17 staff members present on the call. All of
14:32:19 the
respective input into
14:32:22 the call.
>> HEIDI ULLRICH: Sorry
14:32:24 for interrupting. The
14:32:26 interpreters
gave us
14:32:28 additional 5 to 10 minutes if you
14:32:30 wish to continue
the
14:32:33 call
14:32:36 .
>> DANIEL NANGHAKA: I don't think we should continue
14:32:39 to
take the call. I think we have action plan
14:32:41 for the next
call. I think we are
14:32:44 add you journeying the call to last
week of
14:32:46 the coming month. Thank you all
14:32:53 .
>> Be safe, take care.
14:32:57
>> Thanks everyone
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