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 Como se puede ver la semana pasada, hemos propuesto Derisma Queslin que por nuestra 
 representación en caribNOG. Pero, que lo vio, él nunca participó en 
 conferencias, debates, etc. Hay algunas razones por las que, tal vez una 
 mayor parte de ustedes saben las situaciones en Haití como Internet 
 conectividad, potencia, etc. También en algunos casos, es probable que diga por qué alguien 
 lo demás no participó; las situaciones son casi lo mismo para nosotros. 


 Ahora, vamos a tratar de participar con mayor frecuencia. Por lo tanto, somos jóvenes como una 
 asociación y que quieren un poco de tiempo poco a volar. Seguimos estos 
 discusiones todos los días, también se comunican a LACRALO miembros. 




 Milo Paraison 
 Coordinador 


 AHI (Asociación Haïtienne des internautes) 
 Haití 


 03.03.2016 07:00 GMT-05: 00 <lac-discuss-en-request en atlarge-lists.icann.org> : 


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>    1. Re: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica (apisanty en gmail.com)
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>
> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: apisanty en gmail.com
> To: lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Cc: "lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org" <
> lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org>, LACRALO <
> lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 02:13:58 +0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica
>
> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
>
>  Subject: Re: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica
>  from: apisanty en gmail.com
>
>  Niran,
>
>
>  I have Referred to the geography as &quot;subregion&quot; in an Attempt
> to keep the
>  LAC region of ICANN in communication at the ground level of our
>  Organizations and people; to Maintain the long-term, big-picture view. The
>  Including policy of people from different subregions in CROPP activity was
>  as long ago made a good-faith way to avoid the looming splintering
> Actively
>  Among Organizations With claims for representation in the region. The
> unity
>  of the region has-been recently Recognised by the &quot;regions
> study&quot; and there
>  there is little wiggle room (all that is available must be used, of
> course.)
>
>
>  Have I deliberately left out any of Individuals in order nominations to
>  leave open the Possibility of volunteers Who Can Effectively bridge the
>  many different conditions we all face. I am not a volunteer for esta
>  activity.
>
>
>  Other Participations In This discussion Have Given a different kind of
>  signal. After months of silence and abstaining from an election we now
> Have
>  a couple of messages, one line of Which is asking for travel support and
>  the other stereotyping negatively to large part of our community. That,
> for
>  me, is a conversation-stopper. I hope to travel to reliable Those
> Marrakech can
>  meet in a constructive mood and Achieve face-to-face communication That
> the
>  is hard to Achieve by email and has-been proven impossible just now. Yo
> soy
>  out except for the need to reply to unmotivated, unfair attacks: such as
>  Have Already Been read again today. It Seems That we are back into the
>  Where an intervention terrain of third parties has-been called for and
> must
>  That is wait till resolved.
>
>
>  I am sad Potentially That your good-faith question to me has-been drowned
>  out by others. We almost got something going constructive.
>
>
>  Yours,
>
>
>  Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
>  On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Niran Beharry <nbeharrytt en gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> > So Alejandro are you suggesting that someone outside the region mentor
> Derisma
> > Queslin along with all the unique economic, cultural and historical
> > challenges we experience in the Caribbean, and if so who do you suggest ?
> > Or are you just taking an ideological stance practical and realistic
> > benefits for that person and the overall goals and outcomes for CROPP be
> > damned ?
> > Niran Beharry
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 9:18 PM, <carlton.samuels en gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
> >>
> >>  Subject: Re: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica
> >>  from: carlton.samuels en gmail.com
> >>
> >>  Really now!
> >>
> >>
> >>  I have retreated From this list it depresses the spirit Because ....
> and
> >> take
> >>  away from the quality of my life.
> >>
> >>
> >>  May be the member from Ibero-America is in a time zone 12 hours That Is
> >>  ahead of us. But the record will show this is yet another example of
> the
> >>  LACRALO [former] leadership tendency to dictatorial Franco-style
> >> Behaviour.
> >>
> >>
> >>  And Why They no longer enjoy my respect. Or acknowledgment.
> >>
> >>
> >>  This well know. The rump That is LACRALO leadership will never be
> allowed
> >>  to define the Caribbean's experience or ITS needs. PERIOD.
> >>
> >>
> >>  I am Jamaican. I know what is happening in Jamaica and the Caribbean at
> >>  large. Quite apart from the fact We were never Consulted, the proposal
> >>  CROPP for Derisma under Queslin to Attend CaribNOG major shows
> >>  deficiencies. And a woeful ignorance of our situation.
> >>
> >>
> >>  Most CaribNOG are Inglés-speaking attendees.The senior leadership of
> >>  CaribNOG are very much aware of the technical aspects of ICANN
> >> engagement;
> >>  Bevil Wooding check out here:
> >>  http://www.root-dnssec.org/tcr/selection-2010/
> >>
> >>
> >>  I do not know Derisma Queslin. But I can Assure You That Given the
> goals
> >> of
> >>  CROPP, I am not aware That Derisma Queslin have the experience or
> >> previous
> >>  Involvement in ICANN and ICANN At-Large to Effectively execute outreach
> >> to
> >>  Inglés-speaking Caribbean mostly At-Large interests on the Behalf of
> >> ICANN
> >>  At-Large.
> >>
> >>
> >>  CROPP has a residual purpose of outreach and engagement. So We Could
> >> make a
> >>  very weak case for Derisma Queslin to Attend With the goal of Having
> That
> >>  Become more person engaged in ICANN At Large. But absent direct
> >> mentoring,
> >>  That goal would not likely to be successfully Realized.
> >>
> >>
> >>  The Proposal Submitted By Jacqueline Morris falls inline Directly With
> >> The
> >>  Desired goals and outcomes for CROPP. My friend and colleague Bevil
> >>  Wooding is the convenor and in chareg of the book at CaribNOG.
> Jacqueline
> >>  Already have a speaking slot at assured CaribNOG 11 THUS raising the
> >>  profile of ICANN At-Large at CaribNOG 11.Jacqueline Could Also mentor
> >>  Derisma and make introductions to the attendees at CaribNOG.
> >>
> >>
> >>  We Have Given CROPP available slots, the goals and outcomes of CROPP
> can
> >> be
> >>  Realized by sending Both Proposals. The proposal for Desirma Queslin
> May
> >> be
> >>  updated to focus on engagement and the proposal for Jacqueline Morris
> >>  Continues to focus on outreach and she can mentor Also as described
> >> Derisma
> >>  earlier.
> >>
> >>
> >>  Samuels -Carlton
> >>  The University of the West Indies
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  ==============================
> >>  Carlton A Samuels
> >>  Mobile: 876-818-1799
> >>  * Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment &amp; Turnaround *
> >>  =============================
> >>
> >>
> >>  On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM Jacqueline Morris <
> >> jam en jacquelinemorris.com
> >> > wrote:
> >> > Hi everyone
> >> > The Outreach meeting information indicated that the deadline for
> >> > submitting a CROPP application was March 2nd, which is today. I've
> >> > submitted mine, but it seems from this thread  that the decision has
> >> > already been made, albeit before the due date? I really hope that
> given
> >> > that my submission was done in advance of the date, my application is
> >> >  considered for this outreach event.
> >> > Sincerely
> >> > Jacqueline Morris
> >> >
> >> > Jacqueline A. Morris
> >> > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
> >> > Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:26 PM, <sylvia en internautabrasil.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
> >> >>
> >> >>  Subject: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica
> >> >>  from: sylvia en internautabrasil.org
> >> >>
> >> >>  +1
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  ___________________________________________________
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Sylvia Leite Herlein
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> <mailto:sylvia en internautabrasil.org> sylvia en internautabrasil.org
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  ALAC-LACRALO Delegate to NomComm 2014-2016
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  One World, One Internet
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  cid: 26A2D0D9-E7A9-455D-BCDC-26757E8E3078
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  ex - LACRALO Secretary-ICANN / 2012-2014 -
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  ex - ALAC Member 2009-2011 - <http://atlarge.icann.org/>
> >> >> http://atlarge.icann.org
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Skype: sylvia_leite
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  From: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:
> >> >> lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome of Humberto
> >> >> Carrasco
> >> >>  Posted in: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 21:16
> >> >>  To: Alejandro Pisanty
> >> >>  Cc: LACRALO
> >> >>  Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Event Caribnog in Jamaica
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Alexander,
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  A very wise decision in my view.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Cheers
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Sent from my iPhone
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  The 01/03/2016, at 8:58 pm, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty en gmail.com>
> He
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Alberto, all / as,
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  I applaud this decision by the procedure, criteria, organization and
> >> the
> >> >> person appointed. A good result of your action to diversify the
> >> presence of
> >> >> the neediest organizations in the Caribbean.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Alejandro Pisanty
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Alberto Soto <
> >> asoto en ibero-americano.org>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Dear all, Dev.
> >> >>  Below the link with the application for the event in Montego Bay,
> >> >> Jamaica.
> >> >>  Derisma concur Queslin, member of the Association des Haitienne
> >> >>  Internautes Haiti. This will allow our ALS, which resides in a
> country
> >> >>  with poor communications, make contact with the various sponsors and
> >> >>  concurrent. It is requested that ALS had a technical profile for
> >> >>  be commensurate to the level of the event.
> >> >>  You get a specific view of the region, and may disseminate
> >> >>  ALS develops its activities, LACRALO and ICANN.
> >> >>  I'll send to the event venue, media materials and LACRALO
> >> >>  I CAN.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Best regards
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Alberto Soto
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1+DRAFT
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  -----Original message-----
> >> >>  From: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >> >>  [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf
> of
> >> >> Alberto
> >> >>  copse
> >> >>  Posted on: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:39 a.m.
> >> >>  To: lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >> >>  CC: 'LACRALO discussion list' <
> lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >> >
> >> >>  Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] The results of the LACRALO call O
> &amp;
> >> E
> >> >>  on Thursday 25 February 2016
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Dear, we are working on the designation of who will attend this
> >> >>  event. This form will be filed with the applicant designated in the
> >> >>  today or tomorrow.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Best regards
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Alberto Soto
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  -----Original message-----
> >> >>  From: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >> >>  [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf
> of
> >> >> Posted
> >> >>  on: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:01 a.m.
> >> >>  To: lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >> >>  CC: LACRALO discussion list <lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >
> >> >>  Subject: Re: Results of the LACRALO call O &amp; E on Thursday 25
> >> >>  February 2016
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  [[Translated text (in -&gt; en) -]]
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Subject: Re: Results of the LACRALO call O &amp; E on Thursday 25
> >> >>  February 2016
> >> >>  From: devtee en gmail.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Thanks Jacqueline, here is how LACRALO CROPP to be filled
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1+DRAFT
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  The materials can be sent to headquarters by the ICANN staff,
> >> >>  provided advance notice. Outreach and Participation SC
> >> >>  wiki has a page to keep track of such materials
> >> >>  broadcasting applications.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  dev Anand
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  The Sun February 27, 2016 at 18:01, Jacqueline Morris <
> >> >> jam en jacquelinemorris.com>
> >> >>  He wrote:
> >> >> > Hi everyone
> >> >> > I can be available for the CaribNog meeting. It luckily falls
> exactly
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > days between the UTT and UWI exam periods. Can materials etc be
> >> >> > shipped directly to the venue? The overlap on April 20th between
> ARIN
> >> >> > and CaribNog seems serendipitous as well. Sounds like a great
> >> >> opportunity
> >> >> > Jacqueline
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Jacqueline A. Morris
> >> >> > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible
> >> and
> >> >> > (after Chris Lehmann )
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Dear All,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The LACRALO members of the Outreach and Engagement SC (LAC O&E)
> had
> >> a
> >> >>  >> on
> >> >>  >> Thursday 25 February 2016 (
> https://community.icann.org/x/UxmAAw)
> >> >>  >> Together with the LACRALO chair and secretariat reviewed the LAC
> >> >>  >> Outreach events calendar maintained by the LAC O &amp; E
> >> >>  >> (Http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar-List) for possible
> >> outreach
> >> >>  >> Events That Could be used for CROPP Proposals.
> >> >>  >>
> >> >>  >> Three Proposals Were Identified as suitable candidates for using
> >> >> CROPP:
> >> >>  >>
> >> >>  >> CaribNOG (Jamaica) - April 20 to April 22 LACNIC 26 (Cuba) - May
> 2
> >> >>  >> To May 6 First Latin American and Caribbean Forum (Colombia) -
> May
> >> 17
> >> >>  >> To May 18
> >> >>  >>
> >> >>  >> For the CaribNOG event, no traveler was on the call Suggested.
> >> >>  >> Suggestions?
> >> >>  >> A request for CaribNOG CROPP needs to be filed around March 2,
> >> 2016.
> >> >>  >>
> >> >>  >> For the LACNIC 26, Cuba, Harold Suggested Arcos was.
> >> >>  >> A request for LACNIC needs CROPP filed by March to July 2016.
> >> >>  >>
> >> >>  >> For the Latin American and Caribbean Forum in Colombia, it was
> >> >>  >> Suggested That a speaker, Shiva Bissessar Could speak on
> >> >>  >> Cybersecurity At this event using a CROPP proposal. A request
> CROPP
> >> >>  >> For This proposal needs to be filed by March 29 2016.
> >> >>  >>
> >> >>  >> It was NOTED That Bartlett Morgan HAD Obtained a fellowship to
> SSGI
> >> >>  >> 2016 from March 29 to April 2016 January 2016 so I would need
> some
> >> >>  >> Outreach materials before then.
> >> >>  >>
> >> >>  Dev Anand &gt;&gt;
> >> >>  >> _______________________________________________
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