Proyección y Participación SC

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 Asunto: Re: Proyección y Participación SC 
 De: hcarrascob en gmail.com

 Estimado Alan, 


 ¿Tiene alguna noticia acerca de esto? 




 Saludos 


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> El 17-02-2016, a las 2:46 a.m., Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg en mcgill.ca> escribió:
> 
> Alberto, my apologies. That reply should have already been sent. You will have it Wednesday.  Alan
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> At 16/02/2016 12:35 AM, Alberto Soto wrote:
>> Dear Alan, in today's meeting of LACRALO, Dev wuld calls a meeting for
>> clarification.
>> I had already defined to take no action until we have a reply on this
>> matter.
>> This was required on 11 January this year.
>> It is very important for LACRALO all be fulfilled according to the rules.
>> Kind regards
>> 
>> Alberto Soto
>> 
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> [mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de Alan
>> Greenberg
>> Enviado el: jueves, 14 de enero de 2016 3:13
>> Para: lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org;
>> lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outreach and Engagement SC
>> 
>> Dear Alberto,
>> 
>> This message was filed directly in my LAC-Discuss folder and I was not aware
>> of it until Staff told me about it.
>> 
>> I will investigate and get back to you as soon as possible.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> At 11/01/2016 07:17 AM, asoto en ibero-americano.org wrote:
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>> >  Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC
>> >  From: asoto en ibero-americano.org
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>> >  Dear Alan, I am forced as President of LACRALO to get in  Contact
>> > this topic.
>> >  The insistence of the president of a Subcomitde ALAC (Scope and
>> > commitment
>> >  SC) to make decisions that by law must be taken within  LACRALO and
>> > ALS participation of its members, forcing me to it.
>> >  Repeated explanations do not justify that decision.
>> >  It has been cited comments of Alexander Pisanty YMOS as if they had
>> > been  Plan approval generated in that consultation subcomitsin
>> > previously the document that already contbamos. Both the opinion of
>> > Alejandro as ma, were criticisms of such a document. A posteriori
>> > despite  the wrong procedure, as a sign of goodwill and seeking peace
>> > in  our region, gave the plan as accepted, despite our tena  more
>> > specific details on the passes, according to the list I promptly
>> > present, and long before this Strategic Plan.The main detail was  that
>> > must be taken into account as a priority, those countries that have
>> > the lower index of penetration of Internet, as a way to begin  which
>> > requeran greater support and coordinate further action with GSE
>> > ICANN.
>> >  Pedaclaraciones the President of Subcomiten our last meeting
>> > monthly; allno only insistien his mistake, but the confirmque
>> > Subcomitse part of that people will take over the implementacin  of
>> > the plan, and in addition they were analyzed alternative program
>> > CROPP for its implementation by that Subcommittee. As synthesis of
>> > this particular issue: first an ALS presents a project is approved
>> > LACRALO consensus on leadership and then sends it to LACRALO  CROPP
>> > approval to GSE program and beyond. Estn is spewing one  attribution
>> > does not correspond, despite being pidipor mail and the last  monthly
>> > meeting that they did not.
>> >  Insistien also said subcomitestaba formed by members  LACRALO,
>> > understanding that it mistakenly convalidaba such actions.
>> >  The LACRALO has signed MOU with ICANN, giving us independence in
>> > decisions, to be taken within the scope of our region and in  our
>> > regulatory scope of discussion, and not within a Subcomitde  ALAC,
>> > although estintegrado by members of LACRALO.
>> >  In the links who are listed in the mail below, you can see that the
>> > AFRALO similar program was approved by the members of AFRALO 21
>> > September 2015; the APRALO by their leaders on July 3, 2015; he
>> > NARALO by Glenn McKnight 4l August 4, 2015; Dev the EURALO  Anand
>> > Teelucksingh the 29 th September 2015; and also by LACRALO  Dev Anand
>> > Teelucksingh 15 September 2015. At least for LACRALO is  He has taken
>> > an attribution that does not belong.
>> >  In the mail cited by the Chairman of the subcommittee, there are
>> > inconsistencies  such as mail exchange for the proposed Carlton
>> > Samuels  to go to Suriname; this one was presented by Dev Anand in
>> > Teelucksingh  we held a meeting on the issue of Haity Dominica
>> > Republic.Was  with such urgency that we had no time to present it to
>> > LACRALO and  we define exceptionally Humberto in that meeting to not
>> > miss a  CROPP trip. In the previous meeting at the last ICANN meeting
>> > in Buenos  Aires, cited we agree and published the names of those
>> > travel to that meeting. The President of CROPP, Dev Anand Teelucksingh
>> > I publicdichos names, but the list omitien his own, since  viajcon a
>> > vacancy of the program.
>> >  By safeguarding our decisions, our region, and waiting  avoid future
>> > problems, you have to apply well to the directive  for that
>> > Subcommittee.
>> >
>> >
>> >  Best regards
>> >
>> >
>> >  Alberto Soto
>> >
>> >
>> >  -----Original message-----
>> >  From: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> >  [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of
>> > devtee en gmail.com  Posted on: Sunday, January 10, 2016 20:36
>> >  To: lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> >  Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outreach and Engagement SC
>> >
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>> >  [[Translated text (en -&gt; en) -]]
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>> >  Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC
>> >  From: devtee en gmail.com
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>> >  Dear all
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>> >  Just to clarify repeatedly:
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>> >  - The call for people to join the commitment divulgaciny SC (O  SC
>> > &amp; E
>> >  -  https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ)
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>> >(Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-July/0128
>> >71.ht
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>> >  and several people in LACRALO answered the call. The LACRALO Scope
>> >  SC confirmed the commitment and ideas to the strategy, continuation,
>> >  This strategy published for comment a list of LACRALO
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>> >(Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September
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>> >  80.html).
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>> >  The Nicaraguan comments received were LACRALO list
>> >  - Alejandro Pisanty -
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>> >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/
>> >01351
>> >  3.html
>> >  - Alberto Soto -
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>> >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/
>> >01351
>> >  5.html
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>> >  I will answer those comments
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>> >Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/
>> >01355
>> >  9.html
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>> >Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/
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>> >  and the strategy updated based on comments received. By not  have no
>> > more comments, the strategy was presented in
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>> >https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Outreach+Strategi
>> >c+Pla
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>> >  and members of ALC in divulgaciny commitment trying estn SC
>> >  to meet that strategy.
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>> >  One of the activities of the SC O &amp; E is a calendar of events
>> > Possible track events at the regional level - the  Outreach events
>> > calendar LAC ARE  http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar
>> >  If you are aware of the possible events that could be possible in
>> > disclosure events, please suggest that Bartlett Morgan
>> > bartlett.morgan en gmail.com or what JosArce josefranciscoarce en gmail.com
>> > This calendar can be updated.
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>> >  Anyone in LACRALO ALS any representative who cares  by the objectives
>> > of Outreach and Engagement SC are more than welcome to  join the
>> > Outreach and Engagement SC sending an e-mail  staff en atlarge.icann.org
>> > calls O &amp; E have interpretation  espaola given the presence of
>> > several people called estn LACRALO.Las  open for anyone in At-Large to
>> > attend.
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>> >  Outreach and Engagement SC wiki:
>> > https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ
>> >  Outreach and Engagement SC meetings:
>> >  https://community.icann.org/x/2Ig3Ag
>> >  transcripts of meetings.
>> >  Outreach and Engagement SC Monthly reports:
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>> >https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Outrea
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>> >  Engagement d + + + Monthly Reports
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>> >  It is unfortunate that people not following the estn LACRALO At-Large
>> > Working Group activities and therefore do not understand the
>> > Activities  Working Group. Given that At-Large Working Groups  are
>> > opportunities to join At-Large, I strongly suggest that  At-Large
>> > activities of the Working Group is an agenda item of series  LACRALO
>> > monthly calls in a similar manner to the Upgrading  of policies.
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>> >  Finally, I only to point out regarding Cropp applications,  as
>> > representative CROPP Review Team and as a member of the then  Scope
>> > SC, have worked with the Secretariat and chair THIN (Alberto Soto and
>> > Humberto Carrasco) and other representatives of LACRALO from the start
>> > CROPP. For instance:
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>> >  - The conference call with Alberto, Sylvia, Humberto, Len, Fátima,
>> > and  Juan Rojas (like representative LACRALO CROPP) on April 9, 2014 re:
>> >  Ideas for the trip Alberto Soto and Sylvia to go Republic  Dominican
>> > Republic and Haiti  https://community.icann.org/x/bDbRAg
>> >  - The numerous electronic mails between Alberto Soto, Humberto Sylvia
>> > travel to the Dominican Republic and Haita from the vague ideas  in a
>> > practical proposal that may be made under the  Cropp guidelines (using
>> > 4 slots 5 trips)
>> >  - The email messages with Alberto and Humberto to confirm  CROPP
>> > other Carlton Samuels proposal to go to Suriname (using the  fifth
>> > trip space).
>> >  - The numerous electronic mails between the proposal and Alberto Soto
>> > Alfonso Acosta Diego Bastidas to go to Cuba to make the idea of
>> > \u200b\u200ba  stumble on a practice that cumplicon CROPP guidelines.
>> >  - LACRALO notified of the possibility of using the proposals to Cropp
>> > attend meetings of ICANN F2F ICANN53 in Buenos Aires,  Argentina
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>> >(Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-May/01238
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>> >  in which several people from LACRALO apply.
>> >  - Have a call with Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco (
>> >  https://community.icann.org/x/lok0Aw)
>> >  LACRALO applications for Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco choose
>> >  Cropp proposals (which was to be sent Sergio Salinas Porto, Jos
>> >  Salgueiro and Carlton Samuels) to the RT CROPP for travelers to
>> >  ICANN53 attend.
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>> >  In all these cases, the chair of LACRALO and the Secretariat were see
>> > before the applications were submitted to the ICANN CROPP RT and
>> > despusa  GSE for their approvals. This has not changed.
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>> >  Best regards,
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>> >  Dev Anand Teelucksingh
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>> >  The sea, December 22, 2015 at 4:05 pm, <asoto en ibero-americano.org>
>> >wrote:
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>> > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
>> > >
>> > >  Subject: Outreach and Engagement SC
>> > >  From: asoto en ibero-americano.org
>> > >
>> > >  In the last monthly meeting the Chair of the Outreach and
>> > > Engagement SC,  Anand Teelucksingh, explained the workings of such
>> > > subcomity Plan  Strategic LACRALO.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  Before that, one of our ALAC Members consultporque me recibiuna
>> > > task of Dev: take care of a particular country to try  capture an
>> > > organization for subsequent certification as ALS. Le
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>> >  >
>> > >  It is the second time I make this comment. Tenamos generated and
>> > > tested a  Similar plan, but added an order of countries, based on
>> > > the index of  Internet penetration. That is, work with an inclusive
>> > > character, start  Indexes with more low passes and I aslo did.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  With this Plan incorporla current ALS Haiti, the country with the
>> > > lowest  index in our region. And also ISOC Dominican Republic.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  The Strategic Plan of LACRALO generated by the Outreach and
>> > > Engagement  siguiel not normally trmite of any plan to be approved
>> > > by  consensus. And this does not mean that it is correct, but the
>> > > procedure  It is incorrect.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  In addition: The goal of the ALAC Subcomisin on extension and
>> > > commitment  It is developing both a strategy for At-Large to reach
>> > > new members  Potential community outreach, involve members ascomo
>> > > new and existing. Once this strategy is developed, it will  working
>> > > with its members, the ALAC and RALO to ensure the strategy
>> > > successfully implemented.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  Estdesarrollada strategy, but it has not fulfilled the last paragraph:
>> > >  work with our RALO.
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>> > >
>> > >  The same subcomitestrealizando the implementacin, which is not
>> > > applicable, it must do our region.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  At some point you asignarviajes by continuing with this program
>> > > CROPP  implementacin. This procedure is incorrect, it is to be
>> > > treated  within our region.ALS first, then approved by LACRALO, then
>> > > CROPP the Commission of the GSE program and then.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  The fact that several members of LACRALO subcomittenga; and either
>> > > You can enroll at any time, it does not provide authority for the
>> > > implementacin execution of the program, which must be made within
>> > > LACRALO.
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>> > >
>> > >  I ask Dev to make the appropriate changes, and start  working in
>> > > coordination with the leadership of LACRALO.
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>> > >  Best regards
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>> > >  Alberto Soto
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