El movimiento de las elecciones ... ¿Ha fallado en pasar.

Mie Sep 16 04:31:16 UTC 2015

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 Asunto: El movimiento de las elecciones ... ¿Ha fallado en pasar. 
 De: jam at jacquelinemorris.com

 Estimados colegas 
 He pensado profundamente sobre esto, volvió a leer los documentos de trabajo y finales de 
 2006 y 2007, y han llegado a algunas conclusiones muy determinados. 

 La Secretaría es la posición en las que la responsabilidad última de 
 estos cálculos reside. El hecho de que no hemos sabido nada de Humberto 
 sobre este tema es preocupante. El personal está disponible para ayudar a la Secretaría 
 y Presidente, pero no puede asumir la responsabilidad de los miembros, ya que 
 No son los que hemos votado para ocupar tal puesto. 

 También creo que las consecuencias del cálculo correcto de los votos 
 debe ser explicado de manera que no haya confusión. 

 Teniendo en cuenta la intención muy clara de la regla, es obvio que como una 
 consecuencia de cualquier movimiento (incluyendo propuestas de las elecciones) no se puede pasar 
 si el voto ponderado por los representantes de ELA que se abstienen o no voten es 
 más de 50%.

 Por lo tanto, creo que la moción para elegir a un representante ALAC ha fallado. 
 Espero que los próximos pasos, y espero que estos, a diferencia de la 
 anterior, se adherirá a la letra y el espíritu del Reglamento de la 
 LACRALO en su redacción y debidamente aprobado. 

 Jacqueline A. Morris 
 La tecnología debe ser como el oxígeno: Ubicuo, necesario, invisible y 
 Gratis. (después de que Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) 
 El Lun, 14 de septiembre 2015 a las 7:31 de la tarde, Jacqueline Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com 
> wrote:
> Hi Alberto
> I would like to insert some factual historical information into this
> discussion.
>
> The concern when developing the RoP was to ensure that a minority of the
> organisation could not  agree to motions without a majority present and
> voting. Hence, the rule for a virtual assembly is that every ALS is
> considered to be present as each is issued voting credentials. And so a
> motion cannot be carried on a minority voting on a motion if the majority
> abstains or don't vote.
>
> I don't know when the change was made, but it is counter to the
> established and documented process. I believe if such a fundamental change
> were to be made to the established voting process, it should have been
> discussed and voted upon by the membership. It may be that the Big Pulse
> system was wrongly programmed to calculate, but it certainly should have
> been double checked!
>
> Sincerely
>
>
> Jacqueline A. Morris
> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
> Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 6:21 PM, <asoto at ibero-americano.org> wrote:
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>>  Subject: The Numbers are Plain Wrong.
>>  From: asoto at ibero-americano.org
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>>  Lord Samuels, a continuation transcribe Rule 12.2 of the Common Rules
>>  LACRALO Procedure: In accordance with the provisions of the
>>  Rules 6.2 and 16, decisions shall be by a majority of decidirn
>>  Large Structures present and voting; for the purposes of these Rules,
>>  the expression Large Structures present vote will refer the
>>  Large Structures casting an affirmative or negative vote. At
>>  Large Structures refrain from voting if they considerarcomo
>>  they would not have voted.
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>>  In English: 12.2 Subject to the Provisions of Rules 6.2 and 16, decisions
>>  Shall be taken by a majority of the At Large Structures present and
>> voting;
>>  for the purpose of the present Rules, the expression &quot;At Large
>> Structures
>>  present and voting &quot;shall mean At Large Structures casting an
>> affirmative or
>>  negative vote.At Large Structures abstaining from voting Shall Be
>> Regarded
>>  Having Voted as not.
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>>  As see, you have to count the number of ALS present, it is,
>>  they have cast their vote, whatever its option. We understand that
>>  Large structures who voted for the abstention option, have issued
>>  one vote, which even can be considered negative. Positive votes are
>>  those who go sb candidate.
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>>  The rule saying abstaining, we understand that concern
>>  Scope those structures that have not No single act. In
>>  simple terms did not vote for any option.
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>>  The Big Push system is automatic, no intervention of any person.
>>  The percentage taken are correct.
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>>  Years ago that the system works the same way, and has never been
>>  observed or rejected.
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>>  Made the clarification, I ask again please not to issue
>>  grievances and insults on the list.
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>>  If you observe or perform a critical, please, just doing hgalo
>>  s reference to the fact in citing the article and reference standard.
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>>  Cheers
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>>  Alberto Soto
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