[lac-discuss-es] AVISO VOTO: 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE LACRALO ALAC / 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE A LA LACRALO ALAC

Jue Sep 10 02:41:06 UTC 2015

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 Asunto: Re: AVISO VOTO: 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE LACRALO ALAC / 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE A LA LACRALO ALAC 
 De: carlton.samuels en gmail.com

 Humberto: 
 Con el mayor de la paciencia, te equivocas. De nuevo. 

 Se recomienda leer el movimiento de nuevo a continuación, consulte la Regla de Procedimiento 
 de cerca. Regla 18 contiene la autoridad y orientación para la acción. 

 La moción fue programado para una Asamblea General. La cuestión relativa al 
 votar y distribución de credenciales a los miembros lo hizo tan. 

 El voto es la cuestión de decisión. 

 Todas las razones para el movimiento se concatenan; una asamblea ilegal, un 
 fracaso del proceso, etc. El voto es la cuestión objeto de debate. 

 Si usted no entiende la razón de no invocar la Regla 8, puedo explicar 
 a usted. 

 Redacté las Reglas originales de Procedimiento y mantengo el competente 
 la autoridad. 

 Ritz-Carlton Samuels 

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 El Miércoles, 09 de septiembre 2015 a las 5:32 de la tarde, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob en gmail.com>
 escribió: 

> Dear Jacqueline,
>
>
>
> By this email we respond to your request.
>
>
>
> Overall, we estimate that we cannot suspend the election for the following
> reasons:
>
>
>
> 1. The voting process began on Thursday, September 3, 2015, and runs until
> Thursday, September 10, 2015 until 23:00 hours.
>
>
>
> 2. The motion of Mr. Samuels was presented on Friday, September 4, 2015.
>
>
>
> In his email, Mr. Samuels raised a Point of Order and offered a motion of
> NO CONFIDENCE in the LACRALO leadership.
>
> He pointed out some arguments to justify his action and then he ended
> with:
>
>
>
> "Resolved:
>
>
>
> That the general assembly demonstrate its lack of confidence in the
> LACRALO leadership and vote on this motion."
>
>
>
> Thus, this paragraph says nothing about any suspension.
>
>
> 3. On 5 September, we informed to Mr Samuels that we requested an official
> translation to Spanish of his motion to be sent to the LACRALO's Spanish
> list.
>
> 4. Subsequently, the 7th of September 2015 Alberto Soto informed that he
> had asked for legal advice from ICANNâ€™s legal staff regarding this motion
> of censure.
>
> 5. The RoP in Articles 8.1 and 8.2 states the following:
>
>
>
> 8.1 During a discussion, any delegate may raise a point of order; such a
> point of order shall be immediately decided upon by the presiding officer.
>
>
>
> 8.2 An appeal may be made against the ruling of the presiding officer.
> Such an appeal shall be put to the vote immediately and the presiding
> officer's ruling shall stand, unless overruled by a simple majority of
> the ALS present and voting.
>
> These rules are silent regarding any suspension. Neither there has been
> any appeal. In any case, an appeal did not suspend the current vote.
>
> 6. There are articles relating to the suspension in Rule 9 that provides:
>
>
>
> Rule 9 - Procedural Motions
>
> 9.1    During a discussion, any delegate may move the suspension or
> adjournment of the meeting or the adjournment or closure of the debate.
>
> 9.2   Such a motion shall be put to the vote immediately. Subject to Rule
> 8.1, such motions shall have precedence in the following order over all
> other proposals or motions before the meeting:
>
> (a)  Suspension of the meeting;
>
> (b)  Adjournment of the meeting;
>
> (c)  Adjournment of the debate on the question under discussion;
>
> (d)  Closure of the debate on the question under discussion.
>
>
>
> 7. - Finally, with regard to the arguments and accusations of Mr. Samuels,
> they will be answered once the official translation into Spanish is sent to
> the LACRALO's Spanish list.
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
> Alberto Soto
> Humberto Carrasco
>
>
> El 09/09/2015 a las 15:39, Jacqueline Morris escribiÃ³:
>
> Hi Humberto
> I'm confused - there was a motion on the table from Carlton - the motion
> of No Confidence. According to the RoP, this motion needs to be debated and
> voted BEFORE the vote on ALAC rep can continue (it takes precedence). This
> hasn't been done, so how can the vote on ALAC rep be ending tomorrow?
> Or was there a vote on the motion and I missed it?
>
> I am particularly concerned given the number of procedural mistakes that
> seem to have occurred recently. We don't want more issues with this vote.
>
> Jacqueline A. Morris
> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
> Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
>
> 2015-09-09 9:18 GMT-04:00 <hcarrascob en gmail.com>:
>
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>>
>>  Subject: Re: VOTE NOTICE: 2015 VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE LACRALO ALAC /
>> 2015 VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE TO THE LACRALO ALAC
>>  From: hcarrascob en gmail.com
>>
>>  Dear,
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>>
>>  Do not forget that within Voting ends tomorrow Thursday 10
>>  September 2015 at 23:00 UTC.
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>>
>>  Cheers
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>>
>>  The 04/09/2015 at 0:00, staff en atlarge.icann.org wrote:
>> > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]]
>> >
>> >   Asunto: VOTO ANUNCIO: 2015 VOTO PARA LACRALO ALAC REPRESENTANTE /
>> 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE DE LACRALO ANTE EL ALAC
>> >   De: staff en atlarge.icann.org
>> >
>> >   [ES]
>> >   Queridos todos,
>> >
>> >
>> >   LACRALOs Presidencia y SecretarÃa gustarÃa anunciar el inicio de la
>> votaciÃ³n
>> >   al Representante LACRALO ALAC para el perÃodo de dos aÃ±os a partir de
>> las
>> >   Al final de la reuniÃ³n de DublÃn ICANN en octubre de 2015. Esta
>> encuesta estarÃ¡ abierta
>> >   desde jueves 03 septiembre 2015 hasta Jueves 10 de septiembre 2015 a
>> las 23:00 UTC.
>> >
>> >
>> >   ***
>> >   PREGUNTA: Â¿A quiÃ©n apoyas a convertirse en el ALAC Representante
>> LACRALO para
>> >   el perÃodo de dos aÃ±os a partir de finales de la reuniÃ³n de la ICANN
>> en DublÃn
>> >   10 2015? Por favor, seleccionar un candidato de la lista de abajo
>> (que se enumeran
>> >   por orden alfabÃ©tico del nombre de la familia) o abstenerse:
>> >   * Harold Arcos
>> >   * Juan Manuel Rojas
>> >   * Abstenerse
>> >   ***
>> >   InformaciÃ³n adicional se puede encontrar en la pÃ¡gina de elecciones
>> Wiki:
>> >   https://community.icann.org/x/moAQAw.
>> >
>> >
>> >   ==
>> >
>> >
>> >   [ES]
>> >   Hola a todos,
>> >
>> >
>> >   El Presidente y secretario de LACRALOs quisieran anunciar el inicio
>> del
>> >   por voto pÃ¡rrafo Elegir al Representante de LACRALO ante el ALAC
>> Representante
>> >   EL PERIODO DE 2 aos Empezando al final de de la reunin de Dubln en
>> Octubre
>> >   del 2015. La votacin estarabierta desde el Lunes 03 de Setiembre 2015
>> al
>> >   Viernes 10 de Setiembre 2015 a las 23:00 UTC.
>> >
>> >
>> >   ***
>> >   PREGUNTA: A quien Elige Usted Para Ser Representante del LACRALO ante
>> el
>> >   ALAC POR EL PERIODO DE 2 aos Comenzando en la reuniÃ³n de la ICANN en
>> Octubre
>> >   del 2015? Por favor ELIJA UN Candidato de la Lista Abajo (en Orden
>> >   alfabtico) o abstngase:
>> >   * Harold Arcos
>> >   * Juan Manuel Rojas
>> >   * Abstencin
>> >   ***
>> >   Informacin Adicional Se Puede Encontrar En La pgina WIKI:
>> >   https://community.icann.org/x/moAQAw.
>> >
>> >
>> >   Saludos,
>> >
>> >
>> >   Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie
>> >   Peregrine y Terri Agnew
>> >   El personal de ICANN polÃtica en apoyo de ALAC
>> >   E-mail: staff en atlarge.icann.org
>> >   Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann &lt;
>> <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>
>> https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>
>> >   AtLarge &lt;  https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>
>> >   Twitter: @ &lt;  https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>
>> >   &lt;  https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>
>> >
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