[lac-discuss-es] AVISO VOTO: 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE LACRALO ALAC / 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE A LA LACRALO ALAC
carlton.samuels en gmail.com
carlton.samuels en gmail.com
Jue Sep 10 02:41:06 UTC 2015
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Asunto: Re: AVISO VOTO: 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE LACRALO ALAC / 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE A LA LACRALO ALAC
De: carlton.samuels en gmail.com
Humberto:
Con el mayor de la paciencia, te equivocas. De nuevo.
Se recomienda leer el movimiento de nuevo a continuación, consulte la Regla de Procedimiento
de cerca. Regla 18 contiene la autoridad y orientación para la acción.
La moción fue programado para una Asamblea General. La cuestión relativa al
votar y distribución de credenciales a los miembros lo hizo tan.
El voto es la cuestión de decisión.
Todas las razones para el movimiento se concatenan; una asamblea ilegal, un
fracaso del proceso, etc. El voto es la cuestión objeto de debate.
Si usted no entiende la razón de no invocar la Regla 8, puedo explicar
a usted.
Redacté las Reglas originales de Procedimiento y mantengo el competente
la autoridad.
Ritz-Carlton Samuels
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El Miércoles, 09 de septiembre 2015 a las 5:32 de la tarde, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob en gmail.com>
escribió:
> Dear Jacqueline,
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> By this email we respond to your request.
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>
> Overall, we estimate that we cannot suspend the election for the following
> reasons:
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> 1. The voting process began on Thursday, September 3, 2015, and runs until
> Thursday, September 10, 2015 until 23:00 hours.
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> 2. The motion of Mr. Samuels was presented on Friday, September 4, 2015.
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> In his email, Mr. Samuels raised a Point of Order and offered a motion of
> NO CONFIDENCE in the LACRALO leadership.
>
> He pointed out some arguments to justify his action and then he ended
> with:
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> "Resolved:
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> That the general assembly demonstrate its lack of confidence in the
> LACRALO leadership and vote on this motion."
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> Thus, this paragraph says nothing about any suspension.
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> 3. On 5 September, we informed to Mr Samuels that we requested an official
> translation to Spanish of his motion to be sent to the LACRALO's Spanish
> list.
>
> 4. Subsequently, the 7th of September 2015 Alberto Soto informed that he
> had asked for legal advice from ICANN’s legal staff regarding this motion
> of censure.
>
> 5. The RoP in Articles 8.1 and 8.2 states the following:
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> 8.1 During a discussion, any delegate may raise a point of order; such a
> point of order shall be immediately decided upon by the presiding officer.
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> 8.2 An appeal may be made against the ruling of the presiding officer.
> Such an appeal shall be put to the vote immediately and the presiding
> officer's ruling shall stand, unless overruled by a simple majority of
> the ALS present and voting.
>
> These rules are silent regarding any suspension. Neither there has been
> any appeal. In any case, an appeal did not suspend the current vote.
>
> 6. There are articles relating to the suspension in Rule 9 that provides:
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> Rule 9 - Procedural Motions
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> 9.1 During a discussion, any delegate may move the suspension or
> adjournment of the meeting or the adjournment or closure of the debate.
>
> 9.2 Such a motion shall be put to the vote immediately. Subject to Rule
> 8.1, such motions shall have precedence in the following order over all
> other proposals or motions before the meeting:
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> (a) Suspension of the meeting;
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> (b) Adjournment of the meeting;
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> (c) Adjournment of the debate on the question under discussion;
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> (d) Closure of the debate on the question under discussion.
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> 7. - Finally, with regard to the arguments and accusations of Mr. Samuels,
> they will be answered once the official translation into Spanish is sent to
> the LACRALO's Spanish list.
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
> Alberto Soto
> Humberto Carrasco
>
>
> El 09/09/2015 a las 15:39, Jacqueline Morris escribió:
>
> Hi Humberto
> I'm confused - there was a motion on the table from Carlton - the motion
> of No Confidence. According to the RoP, this motion needs to be debated and
> voted BEFORE the vote on ALAC rep can continue (it takes precedence). This
> hasn't been done, so how can the vote on ALAC rep be ending tomorrow?
> Or was there a vote on the motion and I missed it?
>
> I am particularly concerned given the number of procedural mistakes that
> seem to have occurred recently. We don't want more issues with this vote.
>
> Jacqueline A. Morris
> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
> Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
>
> 2015-09-09 9:18 GMT-04:00 <hcarrascob en gmail.com>:
>
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>> Subject: Re: VOTE NOTICE: 2015 VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE LACRALO ALAC /
>> 2015 VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE TO THE LACRALO ALAC
>> From: hcarrascob en gmail.com
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>> Dear,
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>> Do not forget that within Voting ends tomorrow Thursday 10
>> September 2015 at 23:00 UTC.
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>> Cheers
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>> The 04/09/2015 at 0:00, staff en atlarge.icann.org wrote:
>> > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]]
>> >
>> > Asunto: VOTO ANUNCIO: 2015 VOTO PARA LACRALO ALAC REPRESENTANTE /
>> 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE DE LACRALO ANTE EL ALAC
>> > De: staff en atlarge.icann.org
>> >
>> > [ES]
>> > Queridos todos,
>> >
>> >
>> > LACRALOs Presidencia y SecretarÃa gustarÃa anunciar el inicio de la
>> votación
>> > al Representante LACRALO ALAC para el perÃodo de dos años a partir de
>> las
>> > Al final de la reunión de DublÃn ICANN en octubre de 2015. Esta
>> encuesta estará abierta
>> > desde jueves 03 septiembre 2015 hasta Jueves 10 de septiembre 2015 a
>> las 23:00 UTC.
>> >
>> >
>> > ***
>> > PREGUNTA: ¿A quién apoyas a convertirse en el ALAC Representante
>> LACRALO para
>> > el perÃodo de dos años a partir de finales de la reunión de la ICANN
>> en DublÃn
>> > 10 2015? Por favor, seleccionar un candidato de la lista de abajo
>> (que se enumeran
>> > por orden alfabético del nombre de la familia) o abstenerse:
>> > * Harold Arcos
>> > * Juan Manuel Rojas
>> > * Abstenerse
>> > ***
>> > Información adicional se puede encontrar en la página de elecciones
>> Wiki:
>> > https://community.icann.org/x/moAQAw.
>> >
>> >
>> > ==
>> >
>> >
>> > [ES]
>> > Hola a todos,
>> >
>> >
>> > El Presidente y secretario de LACRALOs quisieran anunciar el inicio
>> del
>> > por voto párrafo Elegir al Representante de LACRALO ante el ALAC
>> Representante
>> > EL PERIODO DE 2 aos Empezando al final de de la reunin de Dubln en
>> Octubre
>> > del 2015. La votacin estarabierta desde el Lunes 03 de Setiembre 2015
>> al
>> > Viernes 10 de Setiembre 2015 a las 23:00 UTC.
>> >
>> >
>> > ***
>> > PREGUNTA: A quien Elige Usted Para Ser Representante del LACRALO ante
>> el
>> > ALAC POR EL PERIODO DE 2 aos Comenzando en la reunión de la ICANN en
>> Octubre
>> > del 2015? Por favor ELIJA UN Candidato de la Lista Abajo (en Orden
>> > alfabtico) o abstngase:
>> > * Harold Arcos
>> > * Juan Manuel Rojas
>> > * Abstencin
>> > ***
>> > Informacin Adicional Se Puede Encontrar En La pgina WIKI:
>> > https://community.icann.org/x/moAQAw.
>> >
>> >
>> > Saludos,
>> >
>> >
>> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie
>> > Peregrine y Terri Agnew
>> > El personal de ICANN polÃtica en apoyo de ALAC
>> > E-mail: staff en atlarge.icann.org
>> > Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann <
>> <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>
>> https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>
>> > AtLarge < https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>
>> > Twitter: @ < https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>
>> > < https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>
>> >
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