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 Asunto: Re: ???????? = Windows 1252 BFEs_ q = = = = = 27irregu E9ste_Tiresome_ ventanas-1252 q-polaridad = 27_Contra_Large_At personal = 
 De: chris.lahatte en icann.org

 Apoyo plenamente debate debemos no dude en cuestionar las decisiones. Pero por lo que con el discurso civil, y todavía podemos tener en nuestras voces sean escuchadas. Debemos desafiar la idea y no la persona. Así que espero que el voto puede ser completado, y tal vez algunas discusiones mejor puede tener lugar. 


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> Subject: Re: ???????? = Windows-1252 BFEs_ q = = = = = 27irregu E9ste_Tiresome_ windows-1252 q-polarity = 27_Contra_Large_At Staff = 
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> Dear Chris, there are no parts, that is LACRALO, for me there are no divisions or parts. Some are unhappy with a decision and others agree. Someone is expressed in term unsuitable and other correctly. Everyone has the right to express themselves, but correctly and with proper fundamentals. 
> We all have to do what is necessary so there is no fighting, and that's what we try to do. 
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> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of chris.lahatte en icann.org 
> Posted on: Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:17 pm 
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> Subject: Re: ???????? = Windows-1252 BFEs_ q = = = = = 27irregu E9ste_Tiresome_ windows-1252 q-polarity = 27_Contra_Large_At Staff = 
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> Can I ask that the parties face problems. I think there are some strong opinions, but there is an ongoing survey, perhaps waiting for this to be completed may be the best course today. If the issues are discussed then we can leave the strongest language used. If anyone wants to reach me please do it though. 
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> I'm OK for the last time your use of offensive language. Your Next message with offensive language sermateria WORKING Ombudsman. Your vocabulary words in unacceptable results in Spanish. 
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> Thu, July 23, 2015 at 4:20 pm, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch &lt; 
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>> The issue is very simple. A number of us find an irreconcilable conflict
>> of interest in Lance Hinds's SoI. This is apparent only once the election
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>> *Desde:* lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org> [
>> lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org>] en nombre de Carlton
>> Samuels [carlton.samuels en gmail.com<mailto:carlton.samuels en gmail.com>]
>> *Enviado el:* jueves, 23 de julio de 2015 16:03
>> *Hasta:* lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org>
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>> *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-en] This Tiresome 'Irregularity' Claim Against
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>>   I am trying to live a long and useful life. Engagement with LACRALO is
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>> I am not communicant - I gave it up since I was 14 years old - so cannot
>> depend on a 'good' God for my salvation. So for objective, I do what I must
>> by avoiding vexations to my spirit.
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>> But the bullshit - I hope the word translates well to Spanish - is just
>> too much and I must break my silence.
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>> In case the translation gets mangled, here is what I mean by bullshit:
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>>  Definitions of bullshit
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>> stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.
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>> Jacqueline has already pithily outlined the classic case but I will
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>> In parts of the world where rules for [s]elections are established and
>> where this exercise of democracy is routine, a candidate satisfying all
>> other criteria and nominated for a position unopposed is duly [s]elected. ​
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>> But this is LACRALO where our collective understanding of the process
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>> We simply don't understand that you cannot disavow or subvert the
>> nomination portion of the process without calling the entire [s]election
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>> So, we walk extra miles to give those who don't understand time to come
>> along, slowly.  That is the basis for the consensus poll - notice it is a
>> poll - and why we in the Caribbean bothered to go along with that in the
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>> As At-Large staff would have told all of you, this is not the same for
>> other RALOs. They have matured in both thought and action.
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>> Why does this bother me, you ask? Because it gets old and tiresome after
>> trying for so long. And since it vexes my spirit, I run the real risk of
>> reducing my life and its quality the longer I caucus here.
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>> Now, to the hypocrites.  I ask your forgiveness for not being a good
>> Christian. I simply detest hypocrisy.
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>> In the selection for a NomCom candidate this year, our esteemed
>> colleague from Brazil and incumbent, Sylvia Leite Herlein, was nominated
>> unopposed.  I enthusiastically supported her candidacy, not just only for
>> the fact she had performed in the post. But I truly believe that a single
>> 1-year term does not give the region the benefit of her service and
>> expertise nor allow the region to build the influence we need in very
>> important ICANN councils.
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>> I personally discouraged - yes, discouraged - other nominations to muddy
>> the path to her re-selection. We went along with Jacqueline Morris being
>> de-selected after a single year. Maybe that was the wrong thing to do then.
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>> With Sylvia's unopposed [s]election, no consensus poll took place.  And
>> the At-Large staff notified the world in the same way as they did for Lance
>> Hinds.
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>> It was not that we in the Caribbean did not notice. Rather, it is
>> because we have never felt any such poll was necessary in the first place.
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>> Contrast then to now. There was not a whimper of complaint from our now
>> erstwhile friends of LACRALO propriety, not one allegation of 'impropriety'
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>> So now, I ask you, what is the difference here? We can either assume the
>> guardians of LACRALO propriety were off busily thumb-sucking, even asleep
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>> Or, in this case for Lance Hinds nomination and selection, other
>> operating conditions are applied.
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>> -Carlton Samuels
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