[lac-discuss-es] ¿Es éste Tiresome 'irregularidad' Contra Large At-Staff

Alejandro Pisanty apisanty en gmail.com
Jue Jul 23 21:52:55 UTC 2015 

Carlton,

voy a aceptar por última vez tu uso de lenguaje ofensivo. Tu siguiente
mensaje con lenguaje ofensivo será materia de trabajo del Ombudsman. Tu
vocabulario se traduce a palabras inaceptables en español.

El conflicto de interés de Lance no viene de su actividad empresarial
propia. El conflicto reside en su representación de negocios a través de la
Cámara. Algunos de estos negocios tienen un conflcto estructural con los
usuarios porque los usuarios son clientes de sus servicios.

Jacqueline, la expresión de interés fue modificada y ampliada después de
empezar la elección.

Alejandro Pisanty

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:46 PM, <carlton.samuels en gmail.com> wrote:

>
> [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]]
>
>  Asunto: Re: ¿Es éste Tiresome 'irregularidad' Contra Large At-Staff
>  De: carlton.samuels en gmail.com
>
>  Mi amigo Alejando, voy a irritar un poco más con la retórica. Y
>  no por favor, acepto que estoy utilizando el sentido clásico [Inglés] de
> la palabra.
>
>
>  Lo que se alega es puramente desafortunado mierda.
>
>
>  Lanza Hinds se articula a la ICANN a través de un memorando de
> entendimiento con la ICANN y caucus con
>  At-Large y LACRALO como representante de DevNet; él es el Presidente
>  y su representante para LACRALO.
>
>
>  Devnet es una organización no gubernamental que provee desarrollo de las
> TIC
>  servicios a los que están en el lado pobre de la brecha digital. DevNet
>  thusly representa los intereses de los usuarios finales. Piense en Devnet
> como la versión de Guyana
>  Internauta usarios etc etc.
>
>
>  El hombre es el presidente de la Cámara de Comercio de Georgetown en
> virtud de su
>  propiedad de una pequeña empresa; Tecnologías BrainStreet. Él deriva su
>  ingresos, su salario digno, principalmente de ese negocio.Él no consigue
>  pagado como Presidente de la Cámara de Comercio de Georgetown.
>
>
>  Aquí está el problema. No es inusual para los que estamos en el Caribe
>  tener muchas vidas; Su llamado responder al déficit de capacidad. decir
> eso
>  Lanza no puede ser un hombre de negocios y también representan los
> intereses del usuario final cuando
>  él es presidente de una ONG - el que a través de la que ha conectado a la
> ICANN
>  sistema - sólo se parece delirante para algunos de nosotros.
>
>
>  Al menos para aquellos de nosotros en el Caribe que son voluntarios para
> una cosa
>  u otro.
>
>
>  -Carlton
>
>
>
>
>  ==============================
>  Carlton Un Samuels
>  Móvil: 876-818-1799
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>
>
>  El Jue, 23 de julio 2015 a las 4:20 de la tarde, el Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> Baruch &lt;
>  apisan en unam.mx&gt; escribió:
>
>
> >  Carlton,
> >
> >
> >  The issue is very simple. A number of us find an irreconcilable conflict
> > of interest in Lance Hinds's SoI. This is apparent only once the election
> > was in course.
> >
> >  Simple. No rhetoric needed.
> >
> >  Alejandro Pisanty
> >
> >
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> > *Desde:* lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org [
> > lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de Carlton
> > Samuels [carlton.samuels en gmail.com]
> > *Enviado el:* jueves, 23 de julio de 2015 16:03
> > *Hasta:* lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > *CC:* Albert Daniels
> > *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-en] This Tiresome 'Irregularity' Claim Against
> > At-Large Staff
> >
> >    I am trying to live a long and useful life. Engagement with LACRALO is
> > debilitating.
> >
> >  I am not communicant - I gave it up since I was 14 years old - so cannot
> > depend on a 'good' God for my salvation. So for objective, I do what I
> must
> > by avoiding vexations to my spirit.
> >
> >  But the bullshit - I hope the word translates well to Spanish - is just
> > too much and I must break my silence.
> >
> >  In case the translation gets mangled, here is what I mean by bullshit:
> >
> >   Definitions of bullshit
> >   noun
> >  stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.
> >  verb
> >  talk nonsense to (someone), typically to be misleading or deceptive.
> >
> >
> >     ​It is misleading, even dishonest, to allege misconduct by At-Large
> > staff in this instance and I will tell you why.
> >
> >  Jacqueline has already pithily outlined the classic case but I will
> > repeat it here for effect.
> >
> >  In parts of the world where rules for [s]elections are established and
> > where this exercise of democracy is routine, a candidate satisfying all
> > other criteria and nominated for a position unopposed is duly
> [s]elected. ​
> >
> >  But this is LACRALO where our collective understanding of the process
> > is, well, let me be generous and say uneven, at best.
> >
> >  We simply don't understand that you cannot disavow or subvert the
> > nomination portion of the process without calling the entire [s]election
> > process into question.
> >
> >  So, we walk extra miles to give those who don't understand time to come
> > along, slowly.  That is the basis for the consensus poll - notice it is a
> > poll - and why we in the Caribbean bothered to go along with that in the
> > first place!
> >
> >  As At-Large staff would have told all of you, this is not the same for
> > other RALOs. They have matured in both thought and action.
> >
> >  Why does this bother me, you ask? Because it gets old and tiresome after
> > trying for so long. And since it vexes my spirit, I run the real risk of
> > reducing my life and its quality the longer I caucus here.
> >
> >  Now, to the hypocrites.  I ask your forgiveness for not being a good
> > Christian. I simply detest hypocrisy.
> >
> >  In the selection for a NomCom candidate this year, our esteemed
> > colleague from Brazil and incumbent, Sylvia Leite Herlein, was nominated
> > unopposed.  I enthusiastically supported her candidacy, not just only for
> > the fact she had performed in the post. But I truly believe that a single
> > 1-year term does not give the region the benefit of her service and
> > expertise nor allow the region to build the influence we need in very
> > important ICANN councils.
> >
> >  I personally discouraged - yes, discouraged - other nominations to muddy
> > the path to her re-selection. We went along with Jacqueline Morris being
> > de-selected after a single year. Maybe that was the wrong thing to do
> then.
> >
> >  With Sylvia's unopposed [s]election, no consensus poll took place.  And
> > the At-Large staff notified the world in the same way as they did for
> Lance
> > Hinds.
> >
> >  It was not that we in the Caribbean did not notice. Rather, it is
> > because we have never felt any such poll was necessary in the first
> place.
> >
> >  Contrast then to now. There was not a whimper of complaint from our now
> > erstwhile friends of LACRALO propriety, not one allegation of
> 'impropriety'
> > raised!
> >
> >  So now, I ask you, what is the difference here? We can either assume the
> > guardians of LACRALO propriety were off busily thumb-sucking, even asleep
> > at the switch.
> >
> >  Or, in this case for Lance Hinds nomination and selection, other
> > operating conditions are applied.
> >
> >  Go figure.
> >
> >  -Carlton Samuels
> >
> >  ==============================
> >  Carlton A Samuels
> > Mobile: 876-818-1799
> > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> > =============================
> >
> >>
> >>
>
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