[lac-discuss-es] Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas
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Vie Ago 15 16:05:32 UTC 2014
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Asunto: Re: Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas
Desde: apisanty en gmail.com
Carlton,
la línea de asunto tan original de Sergio.
Sergio y Christian se oponen a algo que no está en discusión.
Capítulo una y nuestros representantes deben votar en la admisión de la abstención
que LACRALO no entendía la pregunta lo suficientemente bien como para llegar a una
posición.
Vamos a hacerlo mejor la próxima vez.
Atentamente,
Alejandro Pisanty
El viernes, 15 de agosto 2014 a las 10:29 AM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels en gmail.com
> wrote:
> Dear Vanda:
> FWIW, the subject line is therefore deceptive; you DO NOT agree with
> Sergio.
>
> Carlton
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> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM, <vanda en uol.com.br> wrote:
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> > Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas
> > From: vanda en uol.com.br
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> > Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues.
> > Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any
> > issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not seem
> > right
> > not admit that the new also do so.
> > Hugs all q
> > Vanda Scartezini
> > Polo Consultores Associados
> > Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj
> > 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil
> > Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253
> > Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464
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> > On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty en gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Sergio,
> > >
> > > At the risk of not being understood or not I explain:
> > >
> > > So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs
> > > Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc.
> > >
> > > That is not up for discussion right now.
> > >
> > > What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names
> > > Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo.
> > > Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like
> > > Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo.
> > >
> > > Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo,
> > > Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting
> > > Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently
> > > ISO 3166).
> > >
> > > I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo?
> > >
> > > I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day
> > > The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv.
> > > Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of
> bv.globo
> > > And when change happens the name is no longer available?
> > >
> > > Alejandro Pisanty
> > >
> > >
> > > 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto <
> > > Presidencia en internauta.org.ar>:
> > >
> > I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that
> plain
> > and simple
> > Do not >>
> > I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause
> > User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that
> > Besides >>
> > >> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of
> > >> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some
> > Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be
> > >> Used for purposes other than for which it was created.
> > This >> more clear now?
> > >>
> > * Sergio Salinas Porto >>
> > Argentina President Internauta >>
> > Argentina >> Internet Users Association
> > >> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar>
> > FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users
> > >> <http://www.fuilatin.org>
> > Facebook >>: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto
> >
> > &
> > SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII>
> > Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>
> > Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto
> > >> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts>
> > Hangout >>: presidencia en internauta.org.ar
> > >> <Hangout%3Apresidencia en internauta.org.ar> /
> > Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto>
> > Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto>
> > Skype >>: internautaargentina
> > Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 *
> > >>
> > * >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received
> > orders
> > >> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo
> > Galeano * >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <
> > Apisan en unam.mx >>
> > >>> Wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Sergio,
> > >>>
> > >>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the
> > reading
> > Of >>
> > >>> Vanda (which I share):
> > >>>
> > >>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST
> > LEVEL >> at
> > >>> GTLD.
> > >>>
> > >>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind
> > Aa.tld >>,
> > >>> Where aa is any combination of two letters.
> > >>>
> > >>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly?
> > >>>
> > >>> Alejandro Pisanty
> > >>>
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> > >>> ________________________________________
> > >>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org [
> > >>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio
> > >>> Salinas Porto [presidencia en internauta.org.ar]
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03
> > >>> To: Vanda Scartezini
> > >>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish
> > >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas
> > >>>
> > >>> Dear Vanda:
> > >>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or
> > By >>
> > >>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD.
> > >>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what
> > That >>
> > >>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about
> > How come >>
> > >>> These changes would impact on end users.
> > >>> We, the end users, who usually know (except
> > Rare >>
> > >>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs
> > Or >>
> > More >>
> > >>> Characters and two-character ccTLD,
> > >>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users
> > About >>
> > >>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some
> > Type >>
> > Of >>
> > >>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as
> > >>> Recognize to be clear rules.
> > >>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some
> > >> Kind of
> > >>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to
> > call
> > >>> Somehow) to Internet users.
> > >>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain
> > Characters >>
> > >>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be
> > >>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not
> > Should >>
> > >>> Be delivered to anyone.
> > >>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of
> > Wall and >>
> > >>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I
> > I studied >>
> > >>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how
> countries
> > Called >>
> > Of >>
> > >>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today
> > Are >>
> > >>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further
> > Two >>
> > >>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard
> > >>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and
> > Other >>
> > >>> Administrative units to define domain names
> > Level >>
> > >>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs
> > With >>
> > >>> A little money in their pockets.
> > >>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex.
> > >>> A dear friend hug
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> * Sergio Salinas Porto
> > >>> President Internauta Argentina
> > >>> Argentina Association of Internet Users
> > >>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar>
> > >>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users
> > >>> <http://www.fuilatin.org>
> > >>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto>
> &
> > >>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII>
> > >>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>
> > >>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto
> > >>> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts>
> > >>> Hangout: presidencia en internauta.org.ar
> > >>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia en internauta.org.ar> /
> > >>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto>
> > >>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto>
> > >>> Skype: internautaargentina
> > >>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 *
> > >>>
> > >>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders
> > >>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo
> > >>> Galeano *
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda en uol.com.br>
> > >>> Wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names
> > >> Domain.
> > >>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil
> > >> There are,
> > >>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think
> > >>> Allow
> > >>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two
> > >>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to have
> a
> > Treatment >>
> > >>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market,
> > That >>
> > Do not >>
> > >>>> Seems fair.
> > >>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if
> > What >>
> > >>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered
> > >> -
> > >>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com
> > >>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or
> > My >>
> > See >>
> > >>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel
> > These >>
> > >>>> Names by level.
> > >>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary
> > >>>> Hugs
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Vanda Scartezini
> > >>>> Polo Consultores Associados
> > >>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj
> > >>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil
> > >>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253
> > >>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" <
> > cristiancasas en hotmail.com>
> > >> Wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion
> > That >>
> > >>> The
> > >>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics
> > >>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO
> > With >>
> > >>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions
> > >>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the
> > Dispute >>
> > >>> By
> > >>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cristian Homes
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