[lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas
Carlton Samuels
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Vie Ago 15 15:29:45 UTC 2014
Dear Vanda:
FWIW, the subject line is therefore deceptive; you DO NOT agree with Sergio.
Carlton
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On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM, <vanda en uol.com.br> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas
> From: vanda en uol.com.br
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> Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues.
> Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any
> issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not seem
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> not admit that the new also do so.
> Hugs all q
> Vanda Scartezini
> Polo Consultores Associados
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> On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty en gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Sergio,
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> > At the risk of not being understood or not I explain:
> >
> > So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs
> > Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc.
> >
> > That is not up for discussion right now.
> >
> > What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names
> > Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo.
> > Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like
> > Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo.
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> > Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo,
> > Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting
> > Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently
> > ISO 3166).
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> > I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo?
> >
> > I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day
> > The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv.
> > Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of bv.globo
> > And when change happens the name is no longer available?
> >
> > Alejandro Pisanty
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> > 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto <
> > Presidencia en internauta.org.ar>:
> >
> I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that plain
> and simple
> Do not >>
> I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause
> User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that
> Besides >>
> >> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of
> >> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some
> Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be
> >> Used for purposes other than for which it was created.
> This >> more clear now?
> >>
> * Sergio Salinas Porto >>
> Argentina President Internauta >>
> Argentina >> Internet Users Association
> >> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar>
> FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users
> >> <http://www.fuilatin.org>
> Facebook >>: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto>
> &
> SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII>
> Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>
> Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto
> >> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts>
> Hangout >>: presidencia en internauta.org.ar
> >> <Hangout%3Apresidencia en internauta.org.ar> /
> Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto>
> Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto>
> Skype >>: internautaargentina
> Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 *
> >>
> * >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received
> orders
> >> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo
> Galeano * >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <
> Apisan en unam.mx >>
> >>> Wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sergio,
> >>>
> >>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the
> reading
> Of >>
> >>> Vanda (which I share):
> >>>
> >>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST
> LEVEL >> at
> >>> GTLD.
> >>>
> >>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind
> Aa.tld >>,
> >>> Where aa is any combination of two letters.
> >>>
> >>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly?
> >>>
> >>> Alejandro Pisanty
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> >>> School of Chemistry UNAM
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> >>>
> >>> ________________________________________
> >>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org [
> >>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio
> >>> Salinas Porto [presidencia en internauta.org.ar]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03
> >>> To: Vanda Scartezini
> >>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish
> >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas
> >>>
> >>> Dear Vanda:
> >>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or
> By >>
> >>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD.
> >>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what
> That >>
> >>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about
> How come >>
> >>> These changes would impact on end users.
> >>> We, the end users, who usually know (except
> Rare >>
> >>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs
> Or >>
> More >>
> >>> Characters and two-character ccTLD,
> >>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users
> About >>
> >>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some
> Type >>
> Of >>
> >>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as
> >>> Recognize to be clear rules.
> >>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some
> >> Kind of
> >>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to
> call
> >>> Somehow) to Internet users.
> >>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain
> Characters >>
> >>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be
> >>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not
> Should >>
> >>> Be delivered to anyone.
> >>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of
> Wall and >>
> >>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I
> I studied >>
> >>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how countries
> Called >>
> Of >>
> >>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today
> Are >>
> >>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further
> Two >>
> >>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard
> >>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and
> Other >>
> >>> Administrative units to define domain names
> Level >>
> >>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs
> With >>
> >>> A little money in their pockets.
> >>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex.
> >>> A dear friend hug
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> * Sergio Salinas Porto
> >>> President Internauta Argentina
> >>> Argentina Association of Internet Users
> >>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar>
> >>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users
> >>> <http://www.fuilatin.org>
> >>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> &
> >>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII>
> >>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>
> >>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto
> >>> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts>
> >>> Hangout: presidencia en internauta.org.ar
> >>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia en internauta.org.ar> /
> >>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto>
> >>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto>
> >>> Skype: internautaargentina
> >>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 *
> >>>
> >>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders
> >>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo
> >>> Galeano *
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda en uol.com.br>
> >>> Wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names
> >> Domain.
> >>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil
> >> There are,
> >>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think
> >>> Allow
> >>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two
> >>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to have a
> Treatment >>
> >>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market,
> That >>
> Do not >>
> >>>> Seems fair.
> >>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if
> What >>
> >>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered
> >> -
> >>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com
> >>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or
> My >>
> See >>
> >>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel
> These >>
> >>>> Names by level.
> >>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary
> >>>> Hugs
> >>>>
> >>>> Vanda Scartezini
> >>>> Polo Consultores Associados
> >>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj
> >>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil
> >>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253
> >>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" <
> cristiancasas en hotmail.com>
> >> Wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion
> That >>
> >>> The
> >>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics
> >>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO
> With >>
> >>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions
> >>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the
> Dispute >>
> >>> By
> >>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cristian Homes
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> >Facultad de Química UNAM
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