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 De: carlton.samuels en gmail.com

 Roosevelt: 
 Su interpretación de las normas aquí está apagado en una fiesta, hombre hermano. 


 El contexto es un debate sobre la lista de discusiones. El papel del Presidente es 
 que se trata. 


 Preste mucha atención a la expresión 'Sus funciones consistirán, entre otras cosas, 
 cosas, '. 


 Tras la derecha después de que coma, la cláusula enumeró una lista de deberes 
 otorgado a la Presidencia y al hacerlo, define la Presidencia. La 
 cláusula preposicional "entre otras cosas" justo después de "sus deberes 
 consistir, "literalmente significa esta lista de funciones no es exhaustiva, pero 
 aquí están algunos de ellos. Tal vez si sustituirse el sinónimo "con" para 
 'Entre' obtendrá una mejor comprensión. 


 Lo que sigue es una lista de atributos de la Presidencia etiquetamos como deberes.


 Ir más lejos en la misma cláusula y prestar mucha atención a estas palabras: 
 'Dirigir los debates de la Asamblea celebrada a través de listas de discusión. 


 Reflexionar sobre el sentido corriente de esas palabras. 


 No puede haber ninguna contradicción con éxito a los siguientes hechos: 


 Hecho # 1. 
 José Arce se dedicaba a presidir un debate sobre la lista de discusiones. 


 Hecho # 2. 
 Como debidamente elegido Presidente LACRALO, José Arce tiene el deber de defender la 
 LACRALO Reglamento. 


 Hecho # 3. 
 Como Presidente y después de las consultas, que actuó dentro de su autoridad e hizo un 
 declaración respecto de una cláusula específica de la Regla de LACRALO 
 Procedimiento. 


 Hecho # 4: 
 BANGO ha parado, de hecho un derecho absoluto a impugnar cualquier decisión del 
 la silla en un debate. Hay un proceso establecido para ello. 


 Hecho # 5: 
 Los privilegios y derechos concedidos a Ageia Densi Argentina en su 
 certificación como un ALS no puede ser diluido o disminuido por José Arce 
 es Presidente. 


 - Carlton


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 El Viernes, 17 de agosto 2012 a las 10:49 PM, Webmaster <rok en bango.org.bb> escribió: 


> Dear Secretariat,
>
> The Chairman did not make a ruling. The Chairman attempted to make a
> decision on behalf of LACRALO, which he does not have the authority to do.
> Therefore, there can be no invoking of Rule 8 here. This is a
> straightforward matter. There is a difference of opinion on the matter of
> the suitability of a candidate. It is the members who must decide on that.
> It is the members who made the rules and the members have a right to
> interpret their own rules and change their rules if they so desire.
>
> I do not see anywhere in the rules which gives the Chairman the right to
> make a decision for LACRALO. Under Rule 4 it states:
> The General Assembly shall elect a President, whose term shall be for one
> year, with the possibility of reelection for one single consecutive term.
> The process of election of the President of the Assembly shall take into
> account the level of participation, leadership, commitment, and knowledge
> of
> the work of the Assembly. In the event of a tie in the course of
> deliberations, the President shall cast the deciding vote.
>
> His duties will consist of, among other things, establish a link between
> the
> discussions in ALAC and the contributions made by the region, represent the
> region in the ALAC face-to-face meetings and chair the debates of the
> Assembly held through discussion lists, teleconferences and face-to-face
> meetings.
>
> So that there is no misunderstanding, the words "among other things" is
> assigned by the genre of the descriptions that come after it. This is to
> say
> that things of the nature of "establishing a link between discussions",
> "represent the region at face-to-face meetings" and "Chair debates of the
> assembly" meetings. Nothing here gives the Chairman a right to make a
> decision for LACRALO.
>
> On the other hand, the Secretariat is charged with administrative matters.
> What makes this an administrative matter is that there is a question which
> the Assembly must resolve. The Chairman cannot resolve the question for the
> Assembly. The Chairman can only rule on how the Assembly proceeds. hence
> the
> rules are clear on the role of the Secretariat, both in Assembly and in
> teleconferences/lists, etc. Rule 7 states:
>
> "7. The Secretariat shall have administrative and informative functions. It
> will be responsible for maintenance of the communications systems and the
> proper flow of information on matters under discussion among all the ALSs
> belonging to the LACRALO, and any other responsibilities assigned to it by
> the General Assembly."
>
> Administrative means that whenever there is an action to be completed, the
> Secretariat comes to the aid of the Assembly and uses its expertise to
> administer the action. In this case, the only ruling the Chair can make is
> that the question or issue must be put to a vote and the Secretariat
> manages
> the vote. The Chairman cannot decide the outcome of the vote nor can he
> make
> a ruling on the vote except on the manner of the vote.
>
> The Chairman made no ruling on the procedure of the meeting of the Assembly
> and therefore there can be no appeal against it. The Chairman simply made a
> mistake which cannot be validated. According to the rules, the only ruling
> the Chair can make is to advise the Secretariat that there is a difference
> of opinion and that there is need for a vote to determine the issue. The
> Secretariat should then proceed to administer the vote.
>
> Please seek further advice since there is a danger that a precedent may be
> set that allows the Chairman to make decisions on behalf of LACRALO, which
> is not the intention of the stated rules. The spirit in which the rules are
> written suggests that all members should participate in decisions of
> LACRALO.
>
> ROK
>
>
>



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