[lac-discuss-es] mis comentarios relacionados con la Enmienda

Dom Mar 4 16:26:41 UTC 2012

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 Asunto: Re: mis comentarios relacionados con la Enmienda 
 De: cintra.sooknanan en gmail.com

 Estimado Vanda, 

 Gracias por su contribución y observaciones. 

 Tal vez esta discusión también dará lugar a una reforma de la forma en la Ley por 
 Grupo de Trabajo ha estado operando de manera que produzca resultados tangibles, 
 en lugar del secreto y la tergiversación. 

 Saludos cordiales 

 Cintra 

 El Sol, 04 de marzo 2012 a las 12:12 PM, Vanda UOL <vanda en uol.com.br> escribió: 

>  Well, my comments where based on the assumption that all the WG members
> were aware of the proposal, and agreed with it.
>  If there is no such internal agreement than better to put over the table
> all other proposals too, at least to be fair, but especially to follow the
> principles under ICANN.
>  Cintra, your proposal to invite the opinion of the At Large's Regional
> Coordination Team, looks very positive in my opinion and I encourage the
> WG,
> you include to do so!
> Best and Abrazos  a tout
>
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de Cintra
> Sooknanan
> Enviada em: domingo, 4 de março de 2012 11:19
> Para: lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Cc: Heidi Ullrich; ICANN At-Large Staff;
> lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] my comments related the
> ammendment
>
> Greetings Lacralo,
>
> Upon review of the proposals I must express my displeasure with the
> drafting
> which totally disregards the proposals made by Caribbean ALSes both
> publicly
> on the list and calls, and internally to the By Law Modification Working
> Group. The fact that our point of view was not captured in this document
> demonstrates clearly that the drafter was not objective and only chose to
> represent the proposals of herself and a segment of Lacralo. Was this
> action
> meant to fraction our relations and sideline my sub-region further, or is
> it
> simply a matter of ignorance on the part of the writer? I ask you to
> consider the answer.
>
> This proposed vision of the new Lacralo is an administrative blunder. It is
> top heavy, disregards diversity, usurps the role of ALAC and ICANN, has no
> mechanisms for encouraging Participation and shows a clear lack of
> understanding of the responsibility of elected members. I am heartened by
> Vanda's contribution and hopeful that this wisdom will be heeded. I also
> wish to make a formal request that in moving forward with any structural
> Lacralo changes that we seek advice from our At Large's Regional
> Coordination Team, who are well experienced and knowledgeable in this area,
> having overseen structural changes in other Ralos.
>
> By way of background I have been on this working group since the Cartagena
> meeting in 2010 and this is the first time there has been any indication of
> the formation of a board of directors. It is alarming to me that it has
> been
> put to Lacralo without any discussion and represented as the work of the By
> Law Modification Working Group. In fact, while I am in agreement with
> Vanda's points, I differ in opinion on her point 10) which refers to the
> Lacralo Directory Board. I request the writer of these proposals to explain
> the reasoning behind the Lacralo Directory Board and as a matter of urgency
> to save her reputation by sending a revised draft of proposals which
> captures ALL the amendments proposed by the By Law Modification Working
> Group.
>
> Thank you
>
> Cintra Sooknanan
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 6:39 PM, <vanda en uol.com.br> wrote:
>
> >
> > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
> >
> >  Subject: my comments related the ammendment
> >  From: vanda en uol.com.br
> >
> >  Here my analysis to share with you all related to the Proposal
> > Amendments. I  am not sure my due if I commit with NOMCOMM will will
> > be Able to Participate  in all sessions, so I Decided to share my
> > opinions are With All of you.
> >
> >
> >  Point I have something to say in highlight below.
> >
> >
> >  Thanks
> >
> >
> >  VANDA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Points Proposed by one group
> >
> >
> >  My comments
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  1) the right to vote in ALSes of affairs LACRALO Determined by a
> > minimum level of participation
> >
> >
> >  This is positive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  2) working languages \u200b\u200bFrench and Portuguese expanded to
> >
> >
> >  I dont see need and may be too expensive. But this is not a main
> > concern '.
> >  (But I dont see APRALO working in the more than 20 languages
> > \u200b\u200bThey Have  there
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  3) Removes the concept of operating by consensus  > From my point of
> > view this is one of ICANNs Principle Against build  consensus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  4) creation of Vice President
> >
> >
> >  Those persons can not be added to the normal representation without
> > at ALAC  the decision of ALAC itself. Not for LACRALO to decide. See
> > also below on  item 8
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  5) terms of President and Vice President for two terms of eligible 2
> > Each years
> >
> >
> >  This make some sense, since representation in ALAC Demands Some
> > degree of  learning, so one year is short term indeed. But the second
> > term Shall Be  one year to allow Others to Participate.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  6) creation position of Vice Secretariat
> >
> >
> >  Same vice president of
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  7) LACRALO would serve to elect 2 persons and 2 Others on ALAC as
> > Their
> >
> >
> >  respective alternates (diversity not apply to Marshall Requirements
> > Elected  ALAC member and Their alternate).
> >
> >
> >  I disagree - diversity Shall apply. The Principles of ICANN states on
> > diversity.The concentration of persons from just one country for
> > instance,  Neither is not safe for the Democratic organization.
> > (Imagine if the two  Mexico and Brazil big country clubs decide to
> > make a strong movement to take  over this group, can be all the
> > control positions) really not safe. Must  Have diversity.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  8) The alternate or deputy can assume the ALAC rep in case of Any
> > Inability of the primary ALAC rep
> >
> >
> >  I Believe This Shall be submitted to ALAC, We can not decide the next
> > time  member sat to ALAC meeting is another
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  9) the ALAC member can be re-Elected for a two year term 2nd
> >
> >
> >  Reelection has the Same Principle 1 year for second term to allow
> > Others to  Participate.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  10) creation of a LACRALO LACRALO Directory Board with administrative
> > or  and operative functions. This will Comprise the persons Elected in
> > LACRALO  (President, Vice-President, Secretary, Deputy Secretary, the
> > two LACRALO  Elected Representatives and Their alternates to ALAC) and
> > five Policy  Directors who would lead Different working groups within
> > The LACRALO and in  Selecting members within The charge of Their
> > working groups.Policy Directors  would be Elected by the General
> > Assembly by simple Majority.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  In my opinion This Will mean too much and not generals to command
> > Troops  Impact but no at all.
> >
> >
> >  3 would be good one member of Caribbean region and two from Latin
> > region too keep at Same Time diversity and be reasonable (there is no
> > members that really works much in so I dont LACRALO believe it will be
> > enough groups to work under 5 policy directors). But not so relevant
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  11) Establishing elections can take place That Virtually
> >
> >
> >  This is good, but needs clear tools available to Avoid Must be one
> > member  to vote for all the ALS under ITS command - Allow This only
> > after  check the security of the tool.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  12) Amendments would be applicable to Existing mandates of President,
> > Secretary
> >
> >
> >  I am not in behalf of That, only if WAS To Have Just One More year term.
> >
> >
> >  Application of the change in benefice of the Existing Elected members
> > looks  manipulation.
> >
> >
> >  Same people can be candidate and be Elected, But Extending the
> > mandate,  looks not Democratic. Thats the way ditactors use to keeping
> > in place  Totally Against.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  13) The constitution of the Board of LACRALO be Held after the first
> > Immediately election to be Held at the time of These Amendments be
> > approved.
> >
> >
> >  Not so relevant.
> >
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> >
> >  Vanda Scartezini
> >
> >
> >  Acesse: http://nomcom.icann.org and candidate-it!
> >
> >
> >  Access: http://nomcom.icann.org and apply!
> >
> >
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