[lac-discuss-es] Lista de publicaciones recientes LACRALO

cintra.sooknanan en gmail.com cintra.sooknanan en gmail.com
Mie Mayo 30 01:27:34 UTC 2012


[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]]

 Asunto: Re: Lista de publicaciones recientes LACRALO 
 De: cintra.sooknanan en gmail.com

 Gracias por su respuesta muy pronto Chris y su compromiso de participar 
 resolver las cuestiones. Personalmente creo que una conferencia telefónica más 
 adecuada como muchos de nosotros no estarán presentes en Praga, y dada la 
 urgencia de este asunto. 


 Anticipo que este nivel de atención también será compartida por LACRALO y 
 ALAC de liderazgo y esperamos que la programación de esta reunión 
 a toda prisa. 


 Un cordial saludo 


 Cintra Sooknanan 


 El mar, 29 de mayo de 2012 a 21:13, Chris LaHatte <chris.lahatte en icann.org> escribió: 


> Dear Cintra****
>
> ** **
>
> I remain committed to assisting resolution of the working difficulties
> between the parties. I am available at any time to have a conference to
> discuss these matters. I am not sure how many will be attending Prague, but
> certainly that may be our next opportunity to meet in person to work
> through these issues. Before the meeting, I am available for a telephone
> conference at short notice.****
>
> ** **
>
> Regards****
>
> ** **
>
> Chris LaHatte****
>
> Ombudsman****
>
> Blog  https://omblog.icann.org/****
>
> Facebook http://www.facebook.com/ICANNOmbudsman****
>
> ** **
>
> Confidentiality****
>
> All matters brought before the Ombudsman shall be treated as
> confidential.  The Ombudsman shall also take all reasonable steps necessary
> to preserve the privacy of, and to avoid harm to, those parties not
> involved in the complaint being investigated by the Ombudsman.The Ombudsman
> shall only make inquiries about, or advise staff or Board members of the
> existence and identity of, a complainant in order to further the resolution
> of the complaint.  The Ombudsman shall take all reasonable steps necessary
> to ensure that if staff and Board members are made aware of the existence
> and identity of a complainant, they agree to maintain the confidential
> nature of such information, except as necessary to further the resolution
> of a complaint****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Cintra Sooknanan [mailto:cintra.sooknanan en gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:57 PM
> *To:* Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
> *Cc:* LACRALO discussion list; Chris LaHatte; Tracy F. Hackshaw; Evan
> Leibovitch
>
> *Subject:* Re: [lac-discuss-en] Recent LACRALO List postings****
>
> ** **
>
> Dear Olivier, ****
>
> ** **
>
> In the interest of transparency it is important that such complaint is
> sufficiently recorded and that those who such complaints are being levied
> against have enough scope and opportunity to publicly respond. Also it is
> necessary that any and all complaints are dealt with in turn to demonstrate
> equality, I do not have the ALAC rules of procedure in front of me (and the
> ICANN website is timing out at the moment) but a rule against
> discrimination and defining equal opportunity must be present in such an
> organisation (if you are able to assist with this citation I would be most
> grateful).****
>
> ** **
>
> In fact for WELL OVER ONE YEAR ago the Caribbean Alses have on record (via
> the mailing list, the conference calls, through public comments on the
> wiki, face to face conversations, the General Assembly and at the ombudsman
> meeting) several past and ongoing complaints against LACRALO Leadership.
> Unfortunately such complaints have gone unanswered by the ones they are
> levied against and not attracted a similar immediate response even though
> these actions have already proved to have a debilitating effect on
> participation.  Notwithstanding this a handful of us have sought the best
> interest of LACRALO, ALAC and At Large and tried to continue to work in
> such hostile environment in the hope that leadership (ALAC and LACRALO)
> will offer some solution. While these few work, they rightly continue to
> represent and share the interests and viewpoint of end users and some other
> Lacralo Members. Your email can be interpreted as an attempt to silence
> these interests and viewpoint, can you please clarify? ****
>
> ** **
>
> Three weeks ago I requested and implored you and the Ombudsman (as well as
> LACRALO leadership) to come up with some firm path forward to avoid further
> degeneration and hardening of positions and while I acknowledge your
> confirmation that a response would come, to date we have no clear plan of
> action. In effect no one is asking you or the ombudsman to exercise
> favouritism, but in the least we expect fairness and professional conduct.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> I am a firm believer in Mediation, it is part of my job. For this reason I
> took the time to listen to the Ombudsman and limited my contribution at the
> meeting in Costa Rica, not because I thought it was a success (certainly
> that would not happen in one meeting) but because I was interested in his
> mediation style and defined objectives. To believe that the parties in the
> region would drive the process is foolish and for there to be no response
> even now is highly unprofessional. Perhaps I am mistaken, and I look
> forward to an explanation if it exists. If no explanation is available then
> please consider the blatant negligence that is being demonstrated and give
> immediate attention to this lacuna (perhaps by the Future Challenges
> Working Group). ****
>
> ** **
>
> It is sad for me to say it, but in effect the postings you are seeing is a
> result of both sides finding the only recourse they can because mediation
> has (to this date) failed them. Let's be real, there was no excellent work
> from Costa Rica but a failed GA clearly demonstrating deepening divergence
> and bitterness, which has continued to grow due to lack of action. Further
> please let's recognise that there is a problem which can no longer be
> limited to a small select group but has bled into all of LACRALO. The
> ombudsman discussions must now take place with full transparency and with
> engagement by all members. This is a problem that exists for all of us! **
> **
>
> ** **
>
> I know this is not an easy situation and it is difficult to stay
> optimistic... this was not an easy email to write, but I hope you do not
> take the above as criticism rather as a heartfelt plead by someone who
> cares about the region enough to recognise there is a problem and try to
> find a solution.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thank you and looking forward to your response,****
>
> ** **
>
> Cintra****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl en gih.com>
> wrote:****
>
> This is the English Version. Spanish Version will be sent to the Spanish
> language list.
>
> Dear All,
>
> I have received complaints from members of the region about several
> recent postings on the LACRALO lists. Those postings relate to ongoing
> disagreements between several individuals relating their point of view
> regarding the running of LACRALO.
>
> I am concerned about those postings because they do not appear to be of
> help towards improving Internet user input in LACRALO and in ALAC. Quite
> the contrary, they re-iterate established positions from several
> individuals and end up turning other volunteers off from being involved.
>
> The time spent discussing these issues on the list ends up taking
> precedence over the time that members from the region could devote to
> more productive tasks such as commenting on Current Comment periods and
> other activities which were advertised on the ALAC-Announce list.
>
> Some of the postings contravene parts of Rule 22 of our ALAC Rules of
> Procedure. They are inappropriate according to:
>
> 22.9 Unprofessional commentary, regardless of the general subject,
> 22.10 Postings libelous being used to abuse, harass, stalk, or threaten
> others,
> 22.11 Postings that are, knowingly false, ad-hominem, or misrepresents
> another person,
>
> I am not going to stand accused of taking sides, nor will I contravene
> the very rules I have quoted here by pointing the finger at anyone.
> However, I will kindly ask you all, Ladies and Gentlemen, that you
> please moderate your language.
>
> We are working with ICANN staff and LACRALO leadership in order to
> continue on a dialog to improve relations, by making use of the
> neutrality and fairness of the ICANN Ombudsman who can act as a
> mediator. This mediation takes place out of this forum and has no place
> on public mailing lists.
>
> An excellent amount of work has taken place in Costa Rica and the region
> should be looking at building on this. Like every region, this takes a
> lot of time and effort. We, the At-Large community and ICANN as a whole,
> have some serious challenges coming up in the form of a threat to the
> multi-stakeholder system. We clearly have to work smarter with each other.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
> ALAC Chair
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lac-discuss-en mailing list
> lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en****
>
> ** **
>



[[--Original text (en)
http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/37a0dfd5e5.html
--]]





Más información sobre la lista de distribución lac-discuss-es