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 De: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels en gmail.com>
 Para: Jacqueline Morris <jam en jacquelinemorris.com>
 Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg en mcgill.ca> , 
 lac-discuss en atlarge-lists.icann.org, lista de discusi髇 de LACRALO &lt; 
 lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org&gt;, de la ICANN At-Large Personal &lt; 
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 Date: Fri, 18 de mayo 2012 09:32:51 -0500 
 Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [NA-es] RECORDATORIO: Solicitud de Comentarios: 
 Proyecto de At-Large Declaraci贸n de la Visi贸n - Fecha l铆mite para observaciones 17 de mayo 
 Todos saben que encontrar estas cosas rebuscadas y en mi humilde opini贸n, no vale la pena una colina de barranco 
 frijoles. 


 El Comit茅 est谩 equivocada en esto. Si nos fijamos en 茅l, los estatutos 
 indicar la raz贸n y el cuidado y bastante. 


 Debemos animar a nuestros colegas a leer un poco m谩s, sobre todo la 
 fundaci贸n instrumentos. Y estas etiquetas simplemente no se corte!


 Todo esto a un lado, no puedo competir con Jacqueline - cum, Alan - an谩lisis. 


 1. 
 -Carlton 


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 El Jue, 17 de mayo de 2012 a 15:49, Jacqueline Morris <jam en jacquelinemorris.com
> wrote:
> I agree with Alan, and think  that the details of Board member
> selection and so on are not particularly suited to a vision statement.
> However, the proposed statement is a little clumsy to my eyes,
> especially in the use of the singular verb forms to refer to the
> plural subject "ALAC AND the At-Large Community".
>
> With regard to the fact that it is a vision statement of the At-Large,
> I don't see the need to expressly include the ALAC or RALOs at all,
> given that they are both integral parts of the Community.
>
> Jacqueline A. Morris
> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
> Free. (after Chris Lehmann )
>
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Alan Greenberg
> <alan.greenberg en mcgill.ca> wrote:
> > I'm afraid that although I have some problems
> > with the proposed vision statement, I do not
> > think that these changes go in the right direction. Two main reasons:
> >
> > - To say that the At-Large Community (and not the
> > upper case C as per the ICANN Bylaw definition)
> > is there to strenghten the RALOs is a largely
> > circular definition as the RALOs are a core integral part of the ALC.
> >
> > - Listing that we exist to select a Board member
> > sends a VERY wrong message in my mind. It is a
> > perk of participating in the ICANN ecosystem, but
> > is certainly not our raison d'阾re.
> >
> > The issue of ALAC over At-Large can be addressed
> > by simply reversing their order.
> >
> > Regarding the original statement, I find
> > "catalyzes" the perfect word here, from a point
> > of view of meaning, but do question whether it will be as good in
> translation.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> >
> > At 15/05/2012 09:39 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote:
> >>Hi everyone,
> >>
> >>Thanks for circulating this draft Vision Statement. I would have liked to
> >>see a clear plain language and easily translatable Vision. Phrases
> >>like  "brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters" are just vague in
> >>my opinion. Vision Statements must have a mechanism of measurement as to
> >>whether they are being met or not and therefore must be precise.
> >>
> >>Also I find it is inapt for the ALAC to be the first structure mentioned
> in
> >>an At Large Vision statement. Perhaps the intention is the mix the two?
> But
> >>I would advise against this route, and instead suggest providing a Vision
> >>Statement of ALAC separately.
> >>
> >>My amended proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
> >>
> >>*       The At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates inclusive,
> >>tangible and
> >>meaningful participation of  Internet end-users worldwide in ICANN
> matters,
> >>particularly through its work in strengthening the RALOs, its
> >>representation by the ALAC and its selection of the ICANN At-Large Board
> >>Member.
> >>
> >>Kind regards
> >>
> >>Cintra Sooknanan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff <
> >>staff en atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dear All,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > A friendly reminder that the comment period for the proposed At-Large
> >> > Vision
> >> > Statement closes on Thursday, 17 May.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
> >> >
> >> > *       The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates
> >> > inclusive,
> >> > meaningful  participation of  Internet end-users world-wide,
> aggregates
> >> > their input and  brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Please use the comments function on this
> >> > <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> wiki page to add any
> suggestions or
> >> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at:  <mailto:
> staff en atlarge.icann.org>
> >> > staff en atlarge.icann.org.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and
> Nathalie
> >> > Peregrine
> >> >
> >> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> >> >
> >> > E-mail:  <mailto:staff en atlarge.icann.org> staff en atlarge.icann.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: ICANN At-Large Staff [mailto:staff en atlarge.icann.org]
> >> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM
> >> > To: alac-announce en atlarge-lists.icann.org;
> >> > 'afri-discuss en atlarge-lists.icann.org'; apralo; Discussion for
> At-Large
> >> > Europe; LACRALO discussion list; 'lac-discuss en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> ';
> >> > NARALO Discussion List
> >> > Cc: 'Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond'; 'Cheryl Langdon-Orr'; ICANN At-Large
> Staff
> >> > Subject: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dear All,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The ALAC Improvements Review WG Final Report included a
> recommendation that
> >> > "the ALAC should develop strategic and operational planning processes
> >> > (including performance criteria and cost information) as part of
> ICANN's
> >> > planning process." (Recommendation 5
> >> > <https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/Recommendation+5> ).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > As part of the implementation of this recommendation, the At-Large
> >> > Improvements Implementation Work Team C created an action item to
> >> > "articulate ALAC's and At-Large's vision and mission."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The At-Large Improvements Taskforce developed a proposed At-Large
> Vision
> >> > Statement during their meeting at the 43rd ICANN Meeting in Costa
> Rica.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
> >> >
> >> > .         The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates
> >> > inclusive, meaningful  participation of  Internet end-users
> world-wide,
> >> > aggregates their input and  brings their voice to bear in all ICANN
> >> > matters.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, and Cheryl Langdon-Orr,
> Chair of
> >> > the At-Large Improvements Taskforce, have outlined the following next
> steps
> >> > for the proposed At-Large Vision Statement:
> >> >
> >> > .         4-17 May 2012 - This proposed At-Large Vision statement is
> open
> >> > for comments between 4-17 May 2012. Please use the comments function
> on
> >> > this
> >> > wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ>  to add any
> suggestions
> >> > or
> >> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at: staff en atlarge.icann.org.
> >> >
> >> > .         21 May 2012 - The At-Large Improvements Taskforce will
> review and
> >> > incorporate comments received during their 21 May meeting.
> >> >
> >> > .         22 May 2012 - The ALAC will review the proposed At-Large
> Vision
> >> > Statement during their 22 May ALAC meeting and vote whether to ratify
> it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and
> Nathalie
> >> > Peregrine
> >> >
> >> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> >> >
> >> > E-mail: staff en atlarge.icann.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
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