[lac-discuss-es] RECORDATORIO: Solicitud de Comentarios: Proyecto de At-Large Declaración de la Visión - Fecha límite para observaciones 17 de mayo

Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch apisan en unam.mx
Vie Mayo 18 04:28:07 UTC 2012


Hola todos,

me parece indispensable que la visión de At-Large incluya la construcción de una red de confianza entre las organizaciones y que con base en esa confianza produzca confianza en que llevamos la voz de los usuarios aún cuando no estemos constituidos con una representación global formal. 

El concepto de "Web of Trust" es clave para ganar confianza, transparencia y rendición de cuentas. Sin éstas, todo el concepto de At-Large se debilita hasta casi desmoronarse.

Si hay consenso a este respecto, debemos impulsarlo.

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Enviado el: jueves, 17 de mayo de 2012 15:51
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Asunto: Re: RECORDATORIO: Solicitud de Comentarios: Proyecto de At-Large Declaración de la Visión - Fecha límite para observaciones 17 de mayo

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 Asunto: Re: RECORDATORIO: Solicitud de Comentarios: Proyecto de At-Large Declaración de la Visión - Fecha límite para observaciones 17 de mayo
 De: jam en jacquelinemorris.com

 Estoy de acuerdo con Alan, y creo que los detalles de miembro de la Junta
 selección y así sucesivamente, no son particularmente adecuados para una declaración de visión.
 Sin embargo, la propuesta de declaración es un poco torpe, a mis ojos,
 especialmente en el uso de las formas verbales singulares para referirse a la
 sujeto plural ", ALAC y la Comunidad At-Large".


 Con respecto al hecho de que es una declaración de visión de la En-Grande,
 No veo la necesidad de incluir expresamente a la ALAC o RALO en absoluto,
 teniendo en cuenta que ambos son partes integrantes de la Comunidad.


 Jacqueline A. Morris
 La tecnología debe ser como el oxígeno: Ubicua, necesaria, invisible y
 Gratis. (AfterChris Lehmann)




 El Jue, 17 de mayo de 2012 a 15:04, Alan Greenberg
<alan.greenberg en mcgill.ca> escribió:
> I'm afraid that although I have some problems
> with the proposed vision statement, I do not
> think that these changes go in the right direction. Two main reasons:
>
> - To say that the At-Large Community (and not the
> upper case C as per the ICANN Bylaw definition)
> is there to strenghten the RALOs is a largely
> circular definition as the RALOs are a core integral part of the ALC.
>
> - Listing that we exist to select a Board member
> sends a VERY wrong message in my mind. It is a
> perk of participating in the ICANN ecosystem, but
> is certainly not our raison d'être.
>
> The issue of ALAC over At-Large can be addressed
> by simply reversing their order.
>
> Regarding the original statement, I find
> "catalyzes" the perfect word here, from a point
> of view of meaning, but do question whether it will be as good in translation.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> At 15/05/2012 09:39 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote:
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>Thanks for circulating this draft Vision Statement. I would have liked to
>>see a clear plain language and easily translatable Vision. Phrases
>>like  "brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters" are just vague in
>>my opinion. Vision Statements must have a mechanism of measurement as to
>>whether they are being met or not and therefore must be precise.
>>
>>Also I find it is inapt for the ALAC to be the first structure mentioned in
>>an At Large Vision statement. Perhaps the intention is the mix the two? But
>>I would advise against this route, and instead suggest providing a Vision
>>Statement of ALAC separately.
>>
>>My amended proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
>>
>>*       The At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates inclusive,
>>tangible and
>>meaningful participation of  Internet end-users worldwide in ICANN matters,
>>particularly through its work in strengthening the RALOs, its
>>representation by the ALAC and its selection of the ICANN At-Large Board
>>Member.
>>
>>Kind regards
>>
>>Cintra Sooknanan
>>
>>
>>
>>On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff <
>>staff en atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > A friendly reminder that the comment period for the proposed At-Large
>> > Vision
>> > Statement closes on Thursday, 17 May.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
>> >
>> > *       The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates
>> > inclusive,
>> > meaningful  participation of  Internet end-users world-wide, aggregates
>> > their input and  brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Please use the comments function on this
>> > <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> wiki page to add any suggestions or
>> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at:  <mailto:staff en atlarge.icann.org>
>> > staff en atlarge.icann.org.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie
>> > Peregrine
>> >
>> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
>> >
>> > E-mail:  <mailto:staff en atlarge.icann.org> staff en atlarge.icann.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: ICANN At-Large Staff [mailto:staff en atlarge.icann.org]
>> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM
>> > To: alac-announce en atlarge-lists.icann.org;
>> > 'afri-discuss en atlarge-lists.icann.org'; apralo; Discussion for At-Large
>> > Europe; LACRALO discussion list; 'lac-discuss en atlarge-lists.icann.org';
>> > NARALO Discussion List
>> > Cc: 'Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond'; 'Cheryl Langdon-Orr'; ICANN At-Large Staff
>> > Subject: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The ALAC Improvements Review WG Final Report included a recommendation that
>> > "the ALAC should develop strategic and operational planning processes
>> > (including performance criteria and cost information) as part of ICANN's
>> > planning process." (Recommendation 5
>> > <https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/Recommendation+5> ).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > As part of the implementation of this recommendation, the At-Large
>> > Improvements Implementation Work Team C created an action item to
>> > "articulate ALAC's and At-Large's vision and mission."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The At-Large Improvements Taskforce developed a proposed At-Large Vision
>> > Statement during their meeting at the 43rd ICANN Meeting in Costa Rica.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
>> >
>> > .         The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates
>> > inclusive, meaningful  participation of  Internet end-users world-wide,
>> > aggregates their input and  brings their voice to bear in all ICANN
>> > matters.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, and Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Chair of
>> > the At-Large Improvements Taskforce, have outlined the following next steps
>> > for the proposed At-Large Vision Statement:
>> >
>> > .         4-17 May 2012 - This proposed At-Large Vision statement is open
>> > for comments between 4-17 May 2012. Please use the comments function on
>> > this
>> > wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ>  to add any suggestions
>> > or
>> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at: staff en atlarge.icann.org.
>> >
>> > .         21 May 2012 - The At-Large Improvements Taskforce will review and
>> > incorporate comments received during their 21 May meeting.
>> >
>> > .         22 May 2012 - The ALAC will review the proposed At-Large Vision
>> > Statement during their 22 May ALAC meeting and vote whether to ratify it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie
>> > Peregrine
>> >
>> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
>> >
>> > E-mail: staff en atlarge.icann.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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