[lac-discuss-es] ANUNCIO VOTE: LACRALO ALAC 2012

Jue Ago 30 15:19:45 UTC 2012

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 Asunto: Re: ANUNCIO VOTE: LACRALO ALAC 2012 
 De: carlosaguirre62 en hotmail.com

 1 en .. 
 &quot;Las elecciones no sólo debe ser libre y justo, sino que también debe ser visto para ser libre 
 y justo &quot;. 

 Eso no está ocurriendo, y me gustaría que el liderazgo LACRALO para tomar la 
 riendas de estos procesos firmemente en la mano, más temprano que tarde. 

 Carlos Dionisio Aguirre 
 NCA GNSO Council - ICANN 
 ex miembro de ALAC por LACRALO 
 Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios 
 Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Córdoba - Argentina - 
 * 54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 

 http://ar.ageiadensi.org 

> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:09:59 -0400
> From: jam en jacquelinemorris.com
> To: matt.ashtiani en icann.org
> CC: lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT: LACRALO ALAC 2012
> 
> Dear all
> I have some concerns about the voting procedures that have been implemented
> recently. We have had vote periods that are as short as THREE days. It is
> difficult for people whose main job is not LACRALO to be able to respond in
> these limited time frames, and I believe that these short election periods
> are effectively disenfranchising some of our ALSes. This can be seen in the
> low turnout for votes recently.
> 
> This is especially difficult given that it is holiday time and back to
> school time in many countries, and people are not necessarily in office but
> rather spending time with their families. I can testify to that, as  I was
> away with my family for four days, and missed the call, execution and close
> of one vote entirely. In less than a week!
> 
> Additionally, there was one vote recently that seemed very strange to me in
> process.
> 
> The vote on Rule 8 was not quorate, so there was an extension. The voting
> period was 3 days. The first extension was 2 days. A second extension was
> called to allow the extension of the vote to be in line with the rules and
> procedures of LACRALO (the same timeframe as the original vote) . The
> result was announced  as the vote was quorate. Timeline is shown below:
> 1) http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2012/006522.html
> At-Large Staff announces begin of vote :
> 22-Aug-2012 23:59 UTC to 25-Aug-2012 23:59 UTC
> 
> 2) http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2012/006549.html
> Sylvia announces extension
> Voting extended from Friday Aug 24 22:39:28 UTC 2012 to Sunday Aug 26
> at 23:59 UTC (ignoring translation issue)
> 
> 3) http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2012/006573.html
> Jose Arce says "initial vote was conducted from August 22 until the
> 24th (inclusive making it 3 days) and the extension is the 25, 26, and
> 27 (3 days)".
> 
> 4) http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2012/006581.html
> Sylvia announces results on August 28 1500 UTC
> (does not show results of who voted what)
> 
> What SHOULD have happened
> - if vote was from 22-Aug to 25-Aug and then extended for 3 days, then
> end of vote should be the 28-Aug 2012 23:59 UTC
> -
> 
> We have also had complaints of voting credentials not being received. This
> is not a new complaint. However, with longer voting periods, it is more
> likely that there would be time for ALSes to 1) know that a vote is
> underway; 2) Determine that the credentials have or have not been received
> and 3) have valid credentials sent and 4) be able to cast their vote.
> 
> In at least 2 of the recent votes, ALS representatives have complained that
> there was no time to follow the steps 1 to 4 above before the vote closed
> and the results were announced.  They were disenfranchised.
> 
> Additionally, there has been at least one incident in which a candidate
> sent thanks for the result to the list well before the results were posted.
> This seems to indicate that there was some out of process communication
> between the Secretariat and the candidate. I am not saying that anything
> was untoward, but it is very important that democratic processes are
> completely transparent and open, and, as the saying goes:
> 
> "Elections must not only BE free and fair, but must also be SEEN to be free
> and fair."
> 
> That is not happening, and I'd like the LACRALO leadership to take the
> reins of these processes firmly in hand sooner rather than later.
> 
> 
> Jacqueline A. Morris
> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
> Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Matt Ashtiani <matt.ashtiani en icann.org>wrote:
> 
> >
> > Españoles a continuación.
> > Dear All,
> >
> >
> > ****
> > Dear LACRALO members,
> >
> > LACRALO’s  Chair and Secretariat would like to announce the start of the
> > vote for the LACRALO representative with the ALAC for the period 2012-2014.
> >  The poll will be open from 29-August-2012 at 23:59 UTC to
> > 03-September-2012 at 23:59 UTC.
> >
> > The options to vote are:
> >
> > 1) Humberto Carrasco
> > 2) Dev Anand Teelucksingh
> > 3) Abstain
> >
> > Additional information can be found on the At-Large ALAC and RALO
> > Elections, Selections and Appointments 2012 Workspace<
> > https://community.icann.org/x/8bnbAQ>.
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ESPAÑOL
> >
> > Estimados miembros de LACRALO,
> >
> > El Presidente y la Secretaria de LACRALO quisieran anunciar el comienzo
> > del voto para el representante de LACRALO ante el ALAC para el periodo
> > 2012-2014.  La votación estará abierta desde el 29 de Agosto  del 2012
> > 23:59 UTC hasta el 03 de Septiembre del 2012 a las  23:59 UTC.
> >
> > Las opciones para votar son:
> >
> > 1) Humberto Carrasco
> > 2) Dev Anand Teelucksingh
> > 3) Se abstiene
> >
> > information adicional puede ser encontrada en el Workspace de At-Large
> > ALAC and RALO Elections, Selections and Appointments 2012.
> > https://community.icann.org/x/8bnbAQ>
> >
> > *****
> > Regards,
> >
> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie
> > Peregrine
> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> > E-mail: staff en atlarge.icann.org<
> > https://owa.icann.org/owa/redir.aspx?C=bae4382542ca489294ee2fc9c14ad9f8&URL=mailto%3astaff%40atlarge.icann.org
> > >
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