[lac-discuss-es] RES: OP
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Asunto: Re: RES: OP
De: carlosaguirre62 en hotmail.com
En particular, no es mi idea. Pero estoy de acuerdo contigo en que algunas personas están en este camino.
Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
NCA Consejo de la GNSO - ICANN
el ex miembro de ALAC por LACRALO
Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios
Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Córdoba - Argentina -
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http://ar.ageiadensi.org
De: rok en bango.org.bb
Para: carlosaguirre62 en hotmail.com
Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: OP
Fecha: Martes, 14 de agosto 2012 21:07:17 -0400
Sé que mi comentario no ayuda porque ustedes están decididos a hacer fracasar
LACRALO.
Corea del Sur
De: Carlos Aguirre Dionisio
Enviado el: Martes, 14 de agosto 2012 20:53
Para: rok en bango.org.bb; carlton
Samuels
Cc: lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org
Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: OP
Corea del Sur: ¿Podría ser, pero tu comentario no ayuda.
Saludos.
Carlos Dionisio
Aguirre
NCA Consejo de la GNSO - ICANN
el ex miembro de ALAC por LACRALO
Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios
Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Córdoba - Argentina -
* 54-351-424-2123 /
423-5423
http://ar.ageiadensi.org
> From: rok en bango.org.bb
> To:
> CC:
> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en]
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:47:08 -0400
>
> Some
>
> was established. It was not a club or political party. It was started
> the specific objective of getting inputs from Caribbean and Latin
> internet users, not for us to go off on some jolly
>
> It seems that there are some who would want to hijack
> what they want to be. When that day comes and
> to ICANN, I would hope that the Caribbean
> petition ICANN to make direct inputs to
> their merry journey to
>
> LACRALO has lost focus and has gone into a steep
> voting for officers is the prize... and
> if their lives depend on
>
> Depressing!
>
> ROK
>
>
> From: carlos dionisio aguirre
> Sent:
> To: carlton samuels
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en]
>
>
> My Dear Bro: On this opportunity I can`t share
> position LACRALO is: independent and soverign.
> (wrong,for me ) interpretation, LACRALO can give
> the same, so it shows it completely
> anybody. This sentence is clear:
> ("MOU")defines an agreement between
> Internet Corporation for Assigned
> establish, and define activities to
> Caribbean Regional At-Large
> ICANN is another
> reason we have a
> kind of
> ICANN is based on the California Law, thats true,
> relationship with LACRALO, if LACRALO adopt
> legal body (CAlifornia law). if not, MoU
> remains alive in force.
>
> wich is one delegate by each organization. This is the explanation of
> "Signing Organizations" sentence.
> Now LACRALO is supported
> the future, and
> the most
> The idea from the begining was to have an
> region composed by End Users, that was
> part of ICANN, wich could be the
> ICANN and the multistackeholder model no need uniformity.
> diverse & democratic ecosystem ICANN need differents
> groups of opinion. LACRALO is one of them,
> organizations by LAC region. ICANN need a LACRALO
> My personal opinion on that.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> NCA GNSO Council - ICANN
> former ALAC
> Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los
> Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -
>
> http://ar.ageiadensi.org
>
>
> From: carlton.samuels en gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:41:48
> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: OP
> To:
> CC:
>
>
> 2012/8/10
>
>
> :rule that you mention doesnt apply in this case, because we have a
> specific rule. Ón the othe side LACRALO is not part of ICÁNN we only
> MOU signed, but we are independent of ICÁNN rules.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
> My brother Carlos:See the
> In this case, I
>
>
> Your
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Case law confirms this situation. Add to this and in this context, the
> differences in legal histories and interpretative mechanisms of
> 'common law' countries as in the Caribbean versus 'civil law'
> predominant in Latin America. Here is a perfect example
> case.
>
>
> ICANN's premise is
> corporation under
> a legal
> and
>
>
>
> This means ICANN's actions are only legal
> comply with its bye-laws.
>
>
> LACRALO's premise is defined by the MOU signed with ICANN.
> subject to the ICANN bye-laws; ICANN cannot make binding
> injurious to its bye-laws.
>
>
> This is the text that describes the "Purpose and Scope" of LACRALO in
> MOU signed with ICANN:
>
> "This Memorandum of
> Signing
>
> by, the Latin America & Caribbean Regional At-Large Large
> supported by ICANN."
>
>
> Note
>
>
> Here's the
> Latin
>
>
>
> It is
>
> of reference that means 'all of us ALSes, acting together'.
>
>
> The certification requirement for ALSes poses another hurdle.
> accept and certify ALSes is ceded to the ALAC by way of
> In other words, *LACRALO* does not and cannot exist
> mandated action of the ALAC.
>
>
> The MOU states clearly the joint commitments, *singly and severally*,
> parties to it.
>
>
> The MOU, as signed,
> In turn, the ALSes
> binds us,
> ICANN
>
>
> The truth is
> American and
> in
>
>
> As far back as 2006, we have invited and had
> staff to explain this. I am on the
> the facts with the general
> was responding to the
> comments in the
> liar in
>
>
>
> The records will show
> misuse of the
>
>
> >From
>
>Cambronera well understands the differences.
>
>
>
> context of names and numbers policy advocacy, advice and development is
> informed and limited by the signed MOU, which is itself subject to the
> powers and scope granted by the ICANN bye-laws and the LACRALO Rules of
> Procedure.
>
>
> LACRALO may, if it so chooses,
> described in its Rules of
> the rules of
> Lawyers
>
>
>
> Here's the compelling
> rule change that
> rogue and
>
>
> If
>
> ICANN is duty bound to respond and act as the MOU and its bye-law
> so to do.
>
>
> Best,- Carlton
>
>
>
> Carlton A
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