Internet Society Trinidad y Tobago, el capítulo de certificación

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 Asunto: Re: Internet Society Trinidad y Tobago, el capítulo de certificación 
 De: carlosaguirre62 en hotmail.com

 Me gusta la idea de la re - certificación. Atentamente. 


 Carlos Dionisio Aguirre 


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 ----- Mensaje original ----- 
 De: Alejandro Pisanty <apisan en servidor.unam.mx>
 Date: Fri, 06 de abril 2012 20:22:03 
 Para: <carlton.samuels en gmail.com>
 Cc: <carlosaguirre62 en hotmail.com> ; <staff en atlarge.icann.org> ; <lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org> ; <lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org>
 Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-es] Internet Society Trinidad y 
 Tobago Capítulo certificación 


 Carlton, todos, 


 el concepto con el que - en su mayoría Esther Dyson y Denise Michel, a continuación, 
 la evolución y el Comité de Reforma que presidí en el principios de 2000 - 
 diseñó la actual At-Large, la representación y la participación es &quot;red de 
 confiar &quot;. 


 El sistema aún puede ser engañada y la confianza puede ser abusado.Un fuerte 
 REE proceso de certificación sería conveniente en una próxima ronda de revisión. 


 Pero, más trnasparency, más emisión de la representación real y el impacto 
 de las organizaciones, y menos retórica, sin duda ayudará a que este sistema 
 trabajar mejor, y disipar la necesidad patente de refundación de LACRALO. Más 
 centrarse en el trabajo por hacer y en la construcción de la capacidad de hacer que tiene 
 nunca ha sido más vital. 


 Vamos a recuperar que las tareas esenciales de la Asamblea General, fatalmente condenados 
 también. Mientras que en este punto, permítanme llamar a aquellas personas que se presentan 
 candidaturas a las elecciones que no puede llevarse a cabo para presentar su 
 plataformas, por si acaso. Menos nombres, más acción, ideas y 
 rendición de cuentas. 


 Alejandro Pisanty 


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 El viernes, 06 de abril 2012, Carlton Samuels escribió: 


> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 01:27:34 -0500
> From: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels en gmail.com>
> To: carlos dionisio aguirre <carlosaguirre62 en hotmail.com>
> Cc: At-Large Staff <staff en atlarge.icann.org>,
>     lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org,
>     lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] Internet Society Trinidad and
>        Tobago Chapter certification
> 
> The challenge with the Due Diligence phase of the ALS application is the
> dependence on prior knowledge of the applicant either thru
> publicly-available sources or via  private sources, mostly thru one-to-one
> personal contacts. When I was Secretariat, we turned to sources as
> different as LACNIC and ISOC representatives for help.
>
> Sometimes the publicly-available sources, like websites and such, are less
> than useful.  And private sources are always open to compromise.  I recall
> in the past, for example, lots of ill-will to an ICANN regional
> representative because of his reporting of negative information he received
> from his sources about an applicant.
>
> Caught between a rock and a hard place.  But short of a forensic routine,
> this is the best we have at the minute.
>
> - Carlton
>
> ==============================
> Carlton A Samuels
> Mobile: 876-818-1799
> *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> =============================
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:01 PM, carlos dionisio aguirre <
> carlosaguirre62 en hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Interesting.
>> Something to be revised, in my humble point of view.
>> The question is:  When the Individual end user of LAC region could make
>> observation to the procedure on the ALS applications?.
>> Today, only the ALSs and Staff can analize application forms, I think we
>> need to extend the due dilligence to every individual end user (thirds
>> party) who want to say something over ALS applications.
>> I think This is a truly Transparency & could give solution to few our
>> problems on this sense. When everybody know about what happen and can give
>> opinion, for this is needed the real & effective communication of facts for
>> all, and not only for the actors.
>> My position on this point, is general and abstract and nothing have to do
>> directly with the T&T ISOC  application .
>> A thought  in a loud voice: What excellent lost opportunity was the GA in
>> Costa Rica to change & to make better our OPs.
>> Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
>> NCA GNSO Council - ICANN
>> former ALAC member by LACRALO
>> Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios
>> Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -
>> *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423
>> http://ar.ageiadensi.org
>>
>>
>>> From: staff en atlarge.icann.org
>>> To: lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org;
>> lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 15:23:59 -0700
>>> Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Internet Society Trinidad and Tobago Chapter
>>      certification
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> The Internet Society Trinidad and Tobago Chapter was certified on
>> 14-Mar-2012 at the At-Large Regional Leadership Meeting which took place
>> from 12:30 - 14:00, while the first LACRALO General Assembly was
>> 14-Mar-2012 from 17:00-18:00.
>>>
>>> To clarify, once the ALAC approves an applicant, the applicant is
>> accredited.
>>>
>>> The email welcoming the Internet Society Trinidad and Tobago Chapter was
>> simply a courtesy email welcoming the ALS to At-Large.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and
>> Nathalie Peregrine
>>> ICANN At-Large Staff
>>> E-mail: staff en atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff en atlarge.icann.org>
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