[lac-discuss-es] Presentación de Postulantes
José Luis Barzallo
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Jue Ago 19 15:33:42 CDT 2010
Estimados compañeros
Me sumo al pedido de respeto para todos.
saludos
José Luis Barzallo
AEDIT
> Alb erto, Matías,
>
> no estén bromemando.
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> .
> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
>
> Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732
>
> * Mi blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
> * Lin
kedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
> * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
> * Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
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>
> * Ven a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org
> *Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org
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> .
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, alberto soto wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:52:00 -0300
>> From: alberto soto <asoto en ibero-americano.org>
>> To: 'Alejandro Pisanty' <apisan en servidor.unam.mx>,
>> 'Andres Piazza' <andrespiazzagpj en hotmail.com>
>> Cc: "[iso-8859-1] 'LACRALO Español'"
>> <lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org>,
>> 'Staff At Large' <staff en atlarge.icann.org>
>> Subject: [iso-8859-1] RE: [lac-discuss-es] Presentación de Postulantes
>>
>> Alejandro, uniéndome institucionalmente al comentario personal de
>> Matías, te
>> pido por favor que fundamentes tu necesidad de toma de precaución, con
>> situaciones y nombres. Genéricamente nos mancha a todos los integrantes.
>> Además no creo en este tipo lobby negativo, al menos en este ámbito.
>> Saludos
>>
>>
>> Dr. Alberto Soto
>> Director IIISI
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>> Enviado el: Jueves, 19 de Agosto de 2010 12:22 p.m.
>> Para: Andres Piazza
>> CC: LACRALO Español; Staff At Large
>> Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Presentación de Postulantes
>>
>> Andrés,
>>
>> seguramente además habrá algunos voluntarios que se sumen a apoyarte.
>> Con
>> la sola precaución de que las cosas no se armen "a modo" del candidato
>> que
>> prefieran, cosa que creo tú sabrás filtrar y todos vigilaremos, creo que
>> eso es bueno.
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>>
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>> .
>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
>> UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
>>
>> Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732
>>
>> * Mi blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
>> * LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
>> * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
>> * Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
>> http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
>>
>> * Ven a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org
>> *Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>> . .
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Andres Piazza wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:04:22 +0000
>>> From: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj en hotmail.com>
>>> To: presidencia en internauta.org.ar, matias en altamiragigena.com.ar,
>>> "[iso-8859-1] LACRALO Español"
>> <lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>> Cc: Staff At Large <staff en atlarge.icann.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [iso-8859-1] Presentación de Postulantes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Estimados,
>>>
>>> Atendiendo a los lógicos planteos, no queda otra opción que posponer
>>> esta
>> instancia de debate.
>>>
>>> Para hacerlo, copio al staff a fin de que explore la posibilidad de
>>> armar
>> una llamada telefónica para la semana que viene a estos efectos. En caso
>> de
>> poder hacerla, advierto que será necesaria la interpretación de Inglés a
>> Español. Podríamos pedir a los candidatos que se expresen en inglés,
>> pero no
>> podemos exigir a las personas que asistan para escucharlos y
>> preguntarles,
>> que no cuenten con las respuestas en su idioma (en caso que logremos
>> obtener
>> la interpretación al Español, de todos modos sería una saludable
>> disposición
>> entablar el debate con los candidatos en el canal inglés, ya que será el
>> idioma en el que deberán desempeñarse en ALAC).
>>>
>>> Apenas tenga la confirmación del Staff respecto de la posibilidad de
>> contar con una teleconferencia e interpretación simultánea (con los
>> canales
>> de Español e Inglés correspondientes), se pondrá fecha del debate.
>>>
>>> En caso de no contar con estas herramientas, habrá que utilizar la
>>> lista
>> de correo.
>>>
>>> Saludos Cordiales y los espero en la Teleconferencia de esta tarde.
>>>
>>> Andrés Piazza
>>> Presidente de LACRALO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: presidencia en internauta.org.ar
>>>> To: matias en altamiragigena.com.ar;
>>>> lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:39:37 -0300
>>>> CC: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Presentación de Postulantes
>>>>
>>>> Coincido plenamente con mi amigo Matías y con lo propuesto por
>>>> Alejandro
>> en sus mails
>>>> anteriores. No puedo agregar mas a esto...
>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>> sergio
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Matías Altamira" <matias en altamiragigena.com.ar>
>>>> To: "'LACRALO Español'" <lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>> Cc: <lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:21 AM
>>>> Subject: [lac-discuss-es] Presentación de Postulantes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Estimados Amigos:
>>>>
>>>> Según entiendo de la moción de Alejandro, la idea es que la
>>>> presentación
>> y
>>>> defensa de postulaciones sea otro día distinto a este Jueves, lo que
>>>> me
>>>> parece justo y oportuno, porque este Jueves todavía no ha cerrado la
>>>> inscripción de postulantes.
>>>>
>>>> También destaco lo dicho por Alex respecto del cargo y sus
>> circunstancias.
>>>> Cada participante deberá tener bien presente que no se está
>>>> concursando
>> para
>>>> un puesto ejecutivo, sino para integrar un órgano consultor con una
>>>> muy
>>>> variada representación e integración, por lo que sus posibilidades de
>> toma
>>>> de decisiones son realmente nulas, concentrándose su función en
>>>> defender
>> los
>>>> intereses de la Región balanceando las necesidades de los usuarios
>> finales
>>>> de las demás regiones.
>>>>
>>>> Saludos cordiales,
>>>>
>>>> Matías
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matías Altamira
>>>> Abogado
>>>> ALTAMIRA GIGENA - Estudio Jurídico
>>>> Bv. San Juan 101 Piso 2° "A"
>>>> Córdoba - República Argentina
>>>> Tel: +54 351 4281624 - 4257923
>>>> matias en altamiragigena.com.ar
>>>> www.altamiragigena.com.ar
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>>> [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:39 PM
>>>> To: Carlos Vera
>>>> Cc: LACRALO Español; lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org;
>>>> lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=Á__Nominaci=F3n =
>>>>
>>>> Carlos,
>>>>
>>>> y que igualmente conviene estructurar con antelación y atendiendo con
>>>> precisión los requerimientos del cargo, ya que éste rinde cuentas ante
>>>> todo en tanto miembro del órgano y no como representante cuya libertad
>>>> está rudamente acotada por sus electores; hay que balancearlo bien.
>>>>
>>>> Discutirlo será muy sano pues nos permitirá interiorizarnos de la
>>>> función
>>>> del cargo y de la organización entera.
>>>>
>>>> Cordiales saludos.
>>>>
>>>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>>>> .
>> .
>>>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
>>>> UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
>>>>
>>>> Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732
>>>>
>>>> * Mi blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
>>>> * LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
>>>> * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
>>>> * Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
>>>>
>>>> * Ven a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org
>>>> *Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org
>>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>>>> .
>> .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010, Carlos Vera wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:36:08 -0500
>>>>> From: Carlos Vera <cveraq en gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Alejandro Pisanty <apisan en servidor.unam.mx>
>>>>> Cc: lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org,
>>>>> lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org,
>>>>> "[ISO-8859-1] LACRALO Español"
>>>> <lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>>> Subject:
>>>>>
>>>>
>> ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6IFtsYWMtZGlzY3Vzcy1lc10gPT9pc28tODg1OS0xP3E/UkVTPcFfX05vb
>>>>> WluYWNp?= [ISO-8859-1] =F3n =
>>>>>
>>>>> Concuerdo con Alex. Esa seria la primera etapa... la siguiente es la
>>>>> rendicion de cuentas que debe ser igualmente un ejercicio permanente
>>>>> de
>>>> los
>>>>> que ingresan y de quienes salen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carlos Vera
>>>>> ISOC Ecuador
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/8/18 Alejandro Pisanty <apisan en servidor.unam.mx>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Carlos,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> démonos entonces unos días - digamos de aquí al lunes - para
>>>>>> preparar
>> el
>>>>>> debate, que deberá tener lugar después del cierre de recepción de
>>>>>> candidaturas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> En ese plazo, que nos deberá indicar Andrés Piazza, deberíamos
>>>>>> aportar
>>>>>> preguntas y consideraciones que nos interese conocer de los
>>>>>> candidatos.
>>>>>> Sugiero que Andrés prepare y nos envíe en las siguientes 36 horas un
>>>> primer
>>>>>> listado de unas diez preguntas y una estructura para las
>>>>>> conversaciones
>>>> en
>>>>>> línea y por teleconferencia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Si no tienen otra propuesta, usemos como base el procedimiento que
>>>>>> usa
>>>> ISOC
>>>>>> en sus elecciones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cordial saludo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>>>>>> .
>> .
>>>> .
>>>>>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
>>>>>> UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Mi blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
>>>>>> * LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
>>>>>> * Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Ven a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC
>>>>>> http://www.isoc.org
>>>>>> *Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org
>>>>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>>>>>> .
>> .
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010, Carlos Vera wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:08:36 -0500
>>>>>>> From: Carlos Vera <cveraq en gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>>>>>> Cc: lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org,
>>>>>>> "[ISO-8859-1] LACRALO Español"
>>>> <lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [iso-8859-1]
>>>>>>> =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=Á__Nominaci=F3
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Me parece excelente propuesta la de Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carlos Vera
>>>>>>> ISOC Ecuador
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/8/18 <sylvia en internautabrasil.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=Á__Nominaci=F3n =
>>>>>>>> From: sylvia en internautabrasil.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Alexander,
>>>>>>>> Like always very wise your words. I am sure that the region is
>>>>>>>> sufficiently mature to do what you propose.
>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>> Sylvia
>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Sylvia Herlein Leite
>>>>>>>> LACRALO-ALAC Liaison
>>>>>>>> Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization
>>>>>>>> sylvia en internautabrasil.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Mensagem original
>>>>>>>> Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>>>>>>> [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command
>> post
>>>>>>>> nome of Alexander
>>>>>>>> Pisanty
>>>>>>>> Shipment command post: terça-feira, 17 of August of 2010 20:17
>>>>>>>> It stops: Andres Piazza
>>>>>>>> Cc: Spanish LACRALO; lac-discuss-it is
>> -bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>>>>>>> Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Nomination
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrés, all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> good what that we already have two candidates; and the list has
>>>>>>>> not
>>>> been
>>>>>>>> exhausted,
>>>>>>>> probably.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now to organize presentation of positions, discussion with the
>>>> community,
>>>>>>>> debate between the candidates, with a calendar of postulation of
>>>>>>>> positions
>>>>>>>> in line, teleconferencings, etc., right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or nothing else by knowing to what organizations belong already
>>>>>>>> every
>>>> one
>>>>>>>> it has
>>>>>>>> decided its vote? Or because some already it summoned dividingly
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> regionalismo?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subjects nouns, not only political of trips and budgets for
>>>>>>>> events,
>>>>>>>> they would be very attractive reasons. And both candidates whohave
>>>>>>>> appeared
>>>>>>>> until now they know of that so # SePoneBueno.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alexander Pisanty
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>>>>>>>> Dr Alexander Pisanty
>>>>>>>> UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>> * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
>>>>>>>> * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
>>>>>>>> * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>> http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã<http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/%C
>>>> 3%83>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/%C3%83>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ,106C0C8614
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC
>>>> http://www.isoc.org
>>>>>>>> * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org. . . . . . . . .
>>>>>>>> . .
>> .
>>>>>>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Andres Piazza wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:49:41 +0000 > From: Andres Piazza <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> andrespiazzagpj en hotmail.com> > To: joseluis en barzallo.com,
>> salgueiro.jo@
>>>>>>>> gmail.com, > lac-discuss-is -bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org, > "[
>>>>>>>> iso-8859-1 Spanish ] LACRALO" >
>>>> <lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] Nomination > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>> Dear
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jose Luis, > > This Presidency recognizes its acceptance and the
>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>> account. Also it is
>>>>>>>> effective the postulation of MatÃas Altamira, that was accepted.
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> Thanks for its expressions. > > Greetings, > > Andrés Piazza >
>>>> President
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> LACRALO > > > > > To: salgueiro.jo en gmail.com; > >
>> lac-discuss-is
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org; > >
>>>>>>>> lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org > > From:
>>>>>>>> joseluis en barzallo.com> > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:51:45 +0000 >
>>>> >
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [
>>>>>>>> lac-discuss-is ] Nomination > > > > Dear Jose Ovid > > >
>> >
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the nomination. Acceptance the challenge to represent
>>>>>>>> as
>>>> much
>>>>>>>> Andean community that at the moment does not have positions
>>>>>>>> onwatch
>>>>>>>> active
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> to the rest of users of Internet, anyone it is his origin. > > >
>>>> >
>>>>>>>> Greetings > > > > Jose Luis Barzallo > > AEDIT > >
>> Ecuador
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > > > Jose Luis Barzallo > > > > (movable email) > > >
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > -----Original Message > > From: Jose Ovid Salgueiro <
>>>>>>>> salgueiro.jo@
>>>>>>>> gmail.com> > > Sender: lac-discuss-he is -
>>>>>>>> bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010
>> 17:12:27
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > To: <lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Subject: [
>>>>>>>> lac-discuss-is ] Nomination > > > > Nomino to Jose Luis
>> Barzallo
>>>>>>>> representing AEDIT, Ecuador > > > > > > > > > > Jose
>>>> Ovid
>>>>>>>> Salgueiro A. > > salgueiro.jo en gmail.com > > By AVDINT > > >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
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