[lac-discuss-es] Resumen de lac-discuss-es, Vol 10, Envío 21
Cristian Hernan Casas
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Mie Jun 17 12:06:06 EDT 2009
Estimado Carlos creo que debemos valorar y estimular la honorosa actitud de aquellos que trabajan desde el voluntariado. Comprendo y respeto tu alto grado de compromiso con ICANN, pero por tal razón es que te pido un poco más de comprensión, magnanimidad con los voluntarios que trabajan por los usuarios. Finalmente, interpreto que tanto tu aporte como el de Alejandro Pisanty elevarían el nivel de formación de la región, por ello te invito a que en las próximas teleconferencias o en las listas coordinen con las autoridades de Lacralo para iniciar la agenda de estudio y formación en los temas que hacen a la vida de la comunidad de ICANN.-
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> 1. Re: [lac-discuss-en] declaration Brazil Internaut
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> 2. Re: internaut del Brasil del declaración
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> 3. Re: [lac-discuss-en] declaration Brazil Internaut
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> From: carlos aguirre <carlosaguirre62 en hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] declaration Brazil
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> Aprovecho la oportunidad para manifestarme en este asunto y no para apoyar o estar en contra del statement (ya que como representante de la region en ALAC, no me corresponde), sino para aplaudir la aparicion de actores desaparecidos y que parece vuelven por sus fueros, aunque sin aportar soluciones todavia.
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> I take this opportunity to speak, but not to stay in against or support the statement (because in my charge like LACRALO representative into ALAC, is not my function), but yes to applaud the arrival of old players, who seems to come back, but still without solutions.
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> > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:31:49 -0700
> > From: carlton.samuels en uwimona.edu.jm
> > To: lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > CC: lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org; sylvia en internautabrasil.org
> > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] declaration Brazil Internaut
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> > Subject: Re: declaration Brazil Internaut
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> > I agree with both Erick and Alexander on principle. But I part
> > company ace the facts dictate. Not only must we talk the talk but we
> > have to walk the walk.
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> > In addition to the Travel Policy advisory, there is to raft of current
> > policy advice developments in the AT-Large. The staff there arehelpfully
> > you please them in one pleases on to spreadsheet and included timelines for
> > action. For example and in my view, the IRT Draft Report shouldbe
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> > Not need to wait on the laggards. I invites all of my colleagues who plows
> > ace weary of the sideshow ace I a.m. to demonstrate to their disgust in a
> > and makes specific way give U.S. your views on them. Take yourpick.
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> > Carlton Samuels
> > The University of the West Indies
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> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 AT 5:00 p.m., <eiriarte en alfa-redi.org> wrote: > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: declaration Brazil Internaut > From: eiriarte en alfa-redi.org > > Supporting all and each one the points raised by Alexander Pisanty > > Alfa-Redi abstains in this voting and from > successive votings that they have to do with algun > document or reference to requests of bottoms for trips. > > Kindly, > > Erick Iriarte Ahon > Alfa-Redi > http://www.alfa-redi.org > > > AT 04:30 p.m. 16/06/2009, Alexander Pisanty wrote: > Andrés, > > with the to greater clarity I have tried to insist - > since I energetically did it in the teleconferencing > of yesterday - in which we happen to substance subjects which they serve stops: > >1, to begin to educate our community, that > to dates does not know the real subjects of > that takes care ICANN (something that lamentably > reiterated the day of yesterday explicitly); &g!
> > t; > 2, to let to appear dwells like to scrounger > interested in boleto/ticket/billete stops > to attend the discussion that in whichwe dog > to contribute and learning of the discussion; > > 3, to assure that our pleases to the table you eat > of the recognition tothe contribution and not of > system of quotas, that always will be unstable in addition to I infuriate; > > 4. TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES, To WHICH > WE SAY TO REPRESENT, ace to result of the previous thing.> > Ratifico the abstention from ISOC Mexico. > > Cuenta the you vote and emit! > > s the declaration that > these allows you; if you have tomajority, like > under, and if no, to under personal responsibility, > consensus and the shades of the same one that you detect. > > Warmgreeting to all. > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. Univers!
> > ity 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-51!
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> > +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn you promarry out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > >---->> Unete to ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > Participa in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . > > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Andres Piazza wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:07:39 +0000 > > From: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj en hotmail.com> > > To: sylvia en internautabrasil.org, lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists! > > .icann.org > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] declaration B! > razil In > ternaut > > > > > > Sylvia Thanks, I a.m. glad that that outside your > > to answer. For Not only by your own position but > > the rest of the ALS, the summary there am is very clarificador. > > Creo informal th!
> > at LACRALO must support this > > statement and I would like that we pruned to do one > > voting in the list, that simply > > it expresses the general consensus of LACRALO. > > > > Since President I have been able to engage in a dialog with > > majority of you and I allow myself to say that this > > text of Cheryl, ace Sylvia raises well, > > it reflects most of our positions. > > > > Even Alexander Pisanty in its abstention from > >there am showed his intention that yesterday there am is not > > exactly this something that clears Time to U.S. and > > effort. Is did not list to substantial objections this text. > > > > If it seems to them, we dog have to consensus to support statement. You will say. > > > > Greetings > > > > A! > > ndrés Piazza > > President of LACRALO > > > > > From: sylvia en internautabrasil.org > > &!
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> > e, 16 Jun 2009 16:59:17 -0300 > > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] declaration Brazil Internaut > > > > > > Dear companions, > > > > > > In the teleconferencing I yesterday committed myself to send to declaration >> > explaining the abstention from Brazil Internaut... > > > > > > is Here: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sabemos that ICANN from the beginning ofthe existence ofthe Thin ones you have donates and > > > continues making great investments to make participate and list to the voice > >> of the End users of Internet > > > > > > Also we know of the wonderful and untiring work that the president of > > > ALAC, Cheryl, you eat making. > > > > > > Our abstention in the voting made in the Teleconferencing, was > > > the to fear of the n! > > onpossibility of participating in the Meetings of ICANN in his! !
> > > >>&g > t; totality region when these plows made in our. Vital Sincewe considered of > > > importance of participating nonsingle in the General Assembly like of > > > factories that plows organized, ace well ace of the Public Forum; being this the only one > > > opportunity to interact with the Board. > > > > > > and this to fear is founded: > > > > > > 1) in the reality of to year 2008, when the LACRALO could not make his > > > General Assembly not to be specifically solicitd to be including > > > in the budget of that year. > > > > > > 2) In the reading of page 7 of the following document, > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/draft-travel-support-guideline> > > s-27may09-en.pdf > > > > > > 3) and by vague to commentary-answer given by Kevin Wilson when him > > sense > I commented on our preoccupation in the !
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> > the opportunity to participate in the! > > Assemblies > > > General and not of the totality the meeting when these plows made in > > > our region. Ace you dog see in:> > > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_fy10_operating_plan_and_budget_11_ > > > june_2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > Rereading the document > > >http://www.atlarge.icann.org/files/atlarge/alac-travel-policy-for-volunteers> > > - 24mar09-en.pdf, we see that these points plows being considered reason why > > > Brazil Internaut you retire the abstentionto the document showed yesterday, 15 of > > > June in the monthly teleconferencing of the LACRALO. And we supported the document > > > proposed by the president of Alac, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, referring to > > > support of trips for the voluntary members of ALAC. > > > > > > > > > > > > immediately, >!
> > > > > > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > > > > > Brazil Internaut > > > > > > > > > > > >! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >! > > &g > t; > > >>_________________________________________________________________ > > Stay up to you date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Live Windows > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/ >>_______________________________________________ > > list lac-discuss-is mailing > > lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > http://www.lacralo.org > >_______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lis!
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> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:30:00 -0700
> From: carlosaguirre62 en hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: internaut del Brasil del declaración
> To: lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Cc: lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org, Sylvia Leite
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> Tema: Re: internaut del Brasil del declaración
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> El asunto y del este del en del manifestarme de párrafos del oportunidad del la de Aprovecho ningún en estar apoyar de párrafos ocontra del statement (que como representante de la region en ALAC, ningún yo corresponde), parece del ya del que de los desaparecidos y de la aparicion de actores del aplaudir de párrafos del sino vuelven los fueros del sus del por, todavia aportar de los soluciones del pecado del aunque.
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> > fecha: Tue, El 16 De Junio 2009 17:31:49 De -0700 > de: carlton.samuels en uwimona.edu.jm > a: lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org > CENTÍMETRO CÚBICO: lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org;sylvia en internautabrasil.org > tema: Re: internaut del Brasil del declaración [ laca-discutir-lac-discuss-en ] > > > [ [ - - texto traducido (es - >)--]] del en > > > tema: Re: internaut del Brasil del declaración > de: carlton.samuels en uwimona.edu.jm > > convengo con Erick y Alexander en principio. Pero pieza > as de la compañía el dictado de los hechos. Debemos nosotros hablar no solamente la charla pero nosotros > tienen que recorrer la caminata. > > además de la política del recorrido consultiva, hay a la balsa de la corriente > progresos del consejo de la política en el En-Grande. El personal allí arehelpfully > usted que en uno satisfacen por favor encendido a la hoja debalance y a los timelines incluidos para > acción. Por ejemplo y en mi opinión, el shouldbe del pr!
> oyecto de informe de IRT > significativo. > > no necesidad de esperar en los rezagados. I invita a todos mis colegas que are > as cansado del as I mañana del sideshow a demostrar a su repugnancia en a > y elasticidad específica ESTADOS UNIDOS de la manera de lasmarcas sus opiniones sobre ellos. Yourpick de la toma. > > Carlton Samuels > la universidad de Indias del oeste > > > en Tue, 16 de junio de 2009 EN 5:00 P.M., <eiriarte en alfa-redi.org> escribió: > > [ [ - - texto traducido (está - > en)--]] > > > el tema: Re: internaut del Brasil del declaración > de: eiriarte en alfa-redi.org > > utilizando todos y cada los temas planteados por Alexander Pisanty > > Alfa-Redi abstiene en esto que vota y de > los votings sucesivos que tienen que hacer con el algun > el documento o la referencia a las peticiones de los fondos para los viajes > > amablemente, > > Erick Iriarte Ahon > Alfa-Redi > http://www.alfa-redi.org &!
> gt; > > EN 04:30 P.M.. 16/06/2009, Alexander Pisanty esc!
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> gt; Andrés, > > con a mayor claridad que he intentado insistir - > puesto que enérgio la hice en el teleconferencing > de ayer - en cuál sucedemos a los temas de la sustancia que él sirve a paradas: > > 1, comenzar a educar a nuestra comunidad, de quien > a las fechas no sabe los temas verdaderos > que las tomas cuidan ICANN (algo que lamentably > reiteró el día de ayerexplícitamente); ¡&g! > t; > 2, dejaron para aparecer las detenciones tienen gusto al scrounger > interesado en boleto/ticket/billete para > atender a la discusión que en perro del whichwe > contribuir y aprender de la discusión; > > 3, asegurar que nuestro le satisface al vector comen >de la contribución del tothe del reconocimiento y no de > sistema de los contingentes, que será siempre inestable además de mí se enfurecen; > > 4. PARA SERVIR A NUESTRAS COMUNIDADES, a QUIENES > DECIMOS REPRESENTAR, as para resultar de la cosa anterior. > ¡> Rat!
> ifico la abstención de ISOC México > > Cuenta usted vota y emite!> > s el declaración que > éstos no le prohiben; si usted tiene tomajority, como > debajo, y si no, a la responsabilidad personal inferior, > consenso y las cortinas de el mismo que usted detectó > >Warmgreeting a todos > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ¡> Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Univers Av.! > 3000 ity, 04510 México DF México > > Tels. ¡+52-(1)-55-51! > 05-6044, > +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * mi blog de blog/My: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn usted promarry hacia fuera: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > >---->>Unete a ISOC México, http://www.isoc.org > Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . . . > > > en Tue, el 16 de juni!
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> Junio 2009 20:07:39 De +0000 > > De: Plaza de Andres <andrespiazzagpj en hotmail.com> > > a: ¡sylvia en internautabrasil.org, laca-discutir-es en atlarge-listas! > > icann.org > > tema: Re: ¡[ laca-discutir-es ] el declaración B! > razil en > ternaut > > > > > >gracias de Sylvia, I mañana alegre que ese exterior su > > a la respuesta. ¡Para no solamente por su propia posición pero > > el resto del ALS, el resumen allí está mismo clarificador. > > th informal de Creo! > en LACRALO debe utilizar esto > > la declaración y quisiera que podáramos para hacer uno > > votando en la lista, eso simplemente > >él expreso el consenso general de LACRALO. > > > > puesto que presidente I ha podido enganchar a un diálogo con > > mayoría de usted y me permito que diga que ésta > > texto de Cheryl, as Sylvia levante bien, > > él reflejo la mayoría de nuestras posiciones > > >>!
> incluso Alexander Pisanty en su abstención de > > allí mostré a su intención que allí la no está ayer > > exactamente esto algo queborra tiempo a ESTADOS UNIDOS y > > esfuerzo. Somos no enumeramos a las objeciones substanciales este texto > > > > si se parece a ellas, perseguimos tenemos que consenso utilizar la declaración. ¡Usted dirá > > > > los saludos > > > > A! > > Plaza de los ndrés > > presidente de LACRALO > > > > > de: sylvia en internautabrasil.org > > y! > gt; : ¡lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >! > fecha: Tu > e, el 16 de junio 2009 16:59:17 de -0300 > > > tema: [ laca-discutir-es ] el internaut del Brasil del declaración > > > > > > los compañeros queridos, > > > > > > en el teleconferencing que me confié ayer para enviar al declaración > > > explicando la abstención del internaut del Brasil... > >!
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> t; > > > > Sabemos que ICANN del ofthe de la existencia del ofthe que comienza unos usted tienen delgadamente dona y > > > continúa haciendo grandes inversiones para hacer para participar y lista a la voz > > > de los utilizadores del extremo del Internet > > > > > > también sabemos del maravilloso y el trabajo untiring que el presidente de > > > ALAC, Cheryl, usted come la fabricación > > > > >> nuestra abstención en la votación hecha en el teleconferencing, era > > > al miedo de la n! ¡> > onpossibility de participar en las reuniones de ICANN en el suyo! ¡! > > >> &g > t; región de la totalidad cuando estos arados hechos en nuestro. Sincewe vital considerado de > > > importancia del nonsingle que participa en la Asamblea General tiene gusto de > > > las fábricas que los arados ordenaron, as bien del as del foro público; siendo ésta el único > > >!
> se funda la oportunidad de obrar recíprocamente con la tarjeta > > > > > > y ésta a temer: ¡> > > > >> 1) en la realidad al año 2008, cuando el LACRALO no podría hacer el suyo > > > Asamblea General a no ser específicamente solicitd a incluir > > > en el presupuesto de ese año > > > > > > 2) en la lectura de la paginación 7 del documento siguiente, > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/draft-travel-support-guideline> > > s-27may09-en.pdf > > > > > > 3) y por vago a comentario-contestadado por Kevin Wilson cuando él > > sentido > yo comentó respecto a nuestra preocupación en!
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> ¡> la oportunidad de participar en! > > asambleas > > > general y no de la totalidad la reunión cuando estos arados hechos en> > > nuestra región. As que usted persigue ve en: > > > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_fy10_operating_plan_and_budget_11_ > > > june_2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > releyendo el documento > > >http://www.atlarge.icann.org/files/atlarge/alac-travel-policy-for-volunteers> > > - 24mar09-en.pdf, vemos que estos arados de las puntas que son considerados razón por la que > > > el internaut del Brasil usted retira el abstentionto que el documento mostró ayer, 15 de > > > junio en el teleconferencing mensual del LACRALO. ¡Y utilizamos el documento > > > propuesto por el presidente de Alac, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, refiriéndose > > > ayuda de los viajes para los miembrosvoluntarios de ALAC. > > > > > > >!
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> ¡> > > > > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > > > > > Internaut Del Brasil > >> > > > > > > > > >! ¡> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >! > > &g > t;¡> > el >>_________________________________________________________________ > > estancia hasta usted fecha en su PC, el Web, y su teléfono móvil con Windows vivo > > >>_______________________________________________ de http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/ > > lista laca-discutir- está enviando > > lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > http://www.lacralo.org > >_______________________________________________ > laca-discutir- está enviando la lista > lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mai!
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> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:29:59 -0700
> From: carlosaguirre62 en hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] declaration Brazil
> Internaut
> To: lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org
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> Subject: Re: declaration Brazil Internaut
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> I take advantage of the opportunity to declare to me in this subject and it does not stop to support or to be against statement (since likerepresentative of the region in ALAC, it does not correspond to me), but to applaud the appearance of missing actors and that seems return by their fueros, although without contributing to solutions todavia.
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> I take this opportunity to speak, but not to stay in against orsupport the statement (because in my charge like LACRALO representative into ALAC, is not my function), but yes to applaud the arrival of old players, who seems to eats back, but still without solutions.
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> > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:31:49 -0700 > From: carlton.samuels en uwimona.edu.jm > To: lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org; sylvia en internautabrasil.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] declaration Brazil Internaut > > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: declaration Brazil Internaut > From: carlton.samuels en uwimona.edu.jm > > I agree with both Erick and Alexander on principle. But I part > company ace the facts dictate. Not only must we talk the talk but we > have to walk the walk. > > In addition to the Travel Policy advisory, there is to raft of current > policy advice developments in the AT-Large. The staff there arehelpfully > you please them in one pleases on to spreadsheet and included timelines for > action. For example and in my view, the IRT Draft Report shouldbe > significant. > > Not need to wait on the laggards. I you invite all of my colleagues who plows > ace weary of the s!
> ideshow ace I a.m. to demonstrate to to their disgust in a > and makes specific way give U.S. your views on them. Take yourpick. > > Carlton Samuels > The University of the West Indies > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 AT 5:00 p.m., <eiriarte en alfa-redi.org> wrote: > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: declaration Brazil Internaut > From: eiriarte en alfa-redi.org > > Supporting all and each one the points raised by Alexander Pisanty > > Alfa-Redi abstains in this voting and from > successive votings that for they have to do with algun > document or reference to requests of bottoms trips. > > Kindly, > > Erick Iriarte Ahon > Alfa-Redi > http://www.alfa-redi.org > > > AT 04:30 p.m. 16/06/2009, Alexander Pisanty wrote: > Andrés, > > with the to to greater clarity I have tried to insist - > since I energetically did it in the teleconferencing > of yesterday - in whichwe happen!
> to substance subjects which they serve stops: > > 1, to!
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> o educate our community, that > to you date does not know the real subjects of > that takes care ICANN (something that lamentably > reiterated the day of yesterday explicitly); &g! > t; > 2, to let to to appear dwells like to to scrounger > interestedin boleto/ticket/billete stops > to attend the discussion that in whichwe dog > to contribute and learning of the discussion; > > 3, to assure that our pleases to the table you eat > of the recognition tothe contribution and not of > system of quotas, that always will be unstable in addition to I infuriate; > > 4. TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES, To WHICH > WE SAY TO REPRESENT, ace to result of the previous thing. >> Ratifico the abstention from ISOC Mexico. > > Cuenta the you votes and emit! > > s the declaration that > these allows you; if you have tomajority, like > to under, and if no, to to under personal responsibility, > consensus and the shades of the same one!
> that you detect. > > Warmgreeting to all. > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. Univers! > ity 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-51! > 05-6044, > +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn you promarry out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > >---->> Unete to ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > Participa in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . . . > > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Andres Piazza wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:07:39 +0000 > > From: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj en hotmail.com> > > To: sylvia en internautabrasil.org, lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists! > > icann.org > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] declara!
> tion B! > razil In > ternaut > > > > > &g!
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> a Thanks, I a.m. glad that that outside your > > to to answer. For Not only by your own position but > > the rest of the ALS, the summary there informal a.m. is very clarificador. > > Creo th! > AT LACRALO must support this > > statement and I would like that we pruned to do one > > voting in the list, that simply > > it expresses the general consensus of LACRALO. > > > > Since President I have been able to engage in a dialog with > > majority of you and I allow myselfto say that this > > text of Cheryl, ace Sylvia raises well, > > it reflects most of our positions. > > > > Even Alexander Pisanty in its abstention from > > there a.m. showed his intention that yesterday there a.m. is not > > exactly this something that clears Time to U.S. and > > effort. Substantial Is did not list to objections this text. >> > > If it seems to them, we dog have to consensus to support !
> statement. You will say. > > > > Greetings > > > > A! > > ndrés Piazza > > President of LACRALO > > > > > From: sylvia en internautabrasil.org > > & > gt; To: lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >! > Date: Your > e, 16 Jun 2009 16:59:17 -0300 > > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] declaration Brazil Internaut > > > > > > Dear companions, > > > > > > In the teleconferencing I yesterday committed myself to send to declaration > > > explaining the abstention from Brazil Internaut... > > > > > > is Here: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sabemos that ICANN from the beginning ofthe existence ofthe Thin ones you have donates and > > > continues making great investments to make participate and list to the voice > > > of the End users of Internet >> > > > > Also we know of the wonderful!
> and untiring work that the president of > > > ALAC, !
> Cheryl,
> you eat making. > > > > > > Our abstention in the voting made in the Teleconferencing, was > > > the to to fear of the n! > > onpossibility of participating in the Meetings of ICANN in his! > > >> &g > t; totality region when these plows made in our. Vital Sincewe considered of > > > importance of participating nonsingle in the General Assembly like of > > > factories that plows organized, acewell ace of the Public Forum; being this the only one > > > opportunity to interact with the Board. > > > > > > and this to to fear is founded: > > > > > > 1) in the reality of to to year 2008, when the LACRALO could not make his > > > General Assembly not to be specifically solicitd to be including > > > in the budget of that year. > > > > > > 2) In the reading of page 7 of the following document, > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/t!
> ravel-support/draft-travel-support-guideline> > > s-27may09-en.pdf > > > > > > 3) and by vague to to commentary-answer given by Kevin Wilson when him > > sense > I commented on our preoccupation in the! > that the representatives > > > of the single ALSs wou! > ld have > the opportunity to participate in the! > > General Assemblies > > > and not of the totality the meeting when these plows made in > > > our region. Ace you dog see in: > > > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_fy10_operating_plan_and_budget_11_ > > > june_2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > Rereading the document > > >http://www.atlarge.icann.org/files/atlarge/alac-travel-policy-for-volunteers> > > - 24mar09-en.pdf, we see that these points plows being considered reason why > > > Brazil Internaut you retires the abstentionto the document showed yesterday, 15 of!
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> nd we supported the document> > > proposed by the president of Alac, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, referringto > > > support of trips for the voluntary members of ALAC. > > > > >> > > > > > > immediately, >! > > > > > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > > > > > Brazil Internaut > > > > > > > > > > > >! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >! > > &g > t; > > >>_________________________________________________________________ > > Stay up to you dates on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone withLive Windows > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/ >>_______________________________________________ > > list lac-discuss-is mailing > > lac-discuss-es en atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.ic!
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