<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Cher Christopher,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Merci pour ta réponse.</div><div class="">Je comprends ton point de vue, mais es-tu sûr que nous allons vers une plus grande protection? Ou au moins est-ce que At-Large va dans ce sens là? Tu as vu le résultat du survey hier au CPWG? (Moins de protection et communauté).</div><div class="">En tout cas, moi je regarde ce qui c’est passé jusque là: Le cas le plus flagrant est dot Amazone.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">De toute façon, le fait qu’un string est un geo-name ne peut pas favoriser ou défavoriser une Community application à mon avis. Ca ne peut pas être un critère pour le CPE pour décider si une application est communautaire ou pas.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bonne soirée.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 9 juil. 2020 à 13:56, <a href="mailto:mail@christopherwilkinson.eu" class="">mail@christopherwilkinson.eu</a> CW <<a href="mailto:mail@christopherwilkinson.eu" class="">mail@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class=""><p lang="fr-BE" class=""><span style="font-size: inherit;" class="">Cher Tijani : Je ne peux pas être d'accord avec toi sur ce point.</span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: inherit;" class="">Nous n'avons plus d'affaire avec « …<span style="color: #000080;" class=""><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="">a commercial entity, a government or a community »<br class=""><br class="">Désormais il s'agit de protéger - d'une manière ou d'un autre – les véritables demandes provenant des pays et des communités locales contre les entités hybrides Registry/Registrar qui :<br class=""><br class="">- bénéficient des règles actuelles d'intégration verticale<br class=""><br class="">- ont les projets de constituer des portefeuilles spéculatives de TLD géographiques<br class=""><br class="">- qui peuvent faire appel à des resources financiers tiers, notamment lorsqu'il s'agit des sûr en chères, et<br class=""><br class="">- qui exploitent les règles trop souples du WT5 en matière de l'utilisation géographique des gTLD.</span></span></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: inherit;" class=""><span style="color: #000080;" class=""><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Tout cela sera discuté en profondeur bientôt par le CPWG. </span></span></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: inherit;" class=""><span style="color: #000080;" class=""><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Entre temps, « cave emptor »</span></span></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: inherit;" class=""><span style="color: #000080;" class=""><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Bien à toi</span></span></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: inherit;" class=""><span style="color: #000080;" class=""><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Christopher</span></span></span></p><blockquote type="cite" class="">El 9 de julio de 2020 a las 10:46 Tijani BEN JEMAA <<a href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn" class="">tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn</a>> escribió: <br class=""> <br class=""><p class=""><span style="color: #000080;" class="">Hi Alan,<br class=""> <br class=""> So, that's it: you want us to ask the addition of the geo-name nature of the string applied for as a criterion for the CPE to decide whether the application is Community one or not.<br class=""> <br class=""> In my opinion, it's absolutely irrelevent. Any geo-name could be applied for by a commercial entity, a government or a community. The fact that it is a geo-name shouldn't give more credit to the applicat even if it is a community. Any application is not more community one when it is for the geo-name string.<br class=""> <br class=""> Tijani<br class=""> <br class=""> </span><br class=""> Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" class="">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>> a écrit :</p><blockquote type="cite" class=""><p class="">Many geoname TLDs delegated in the last round were in fact community applications (although I don't know if any went through the CPE since that only happens if they are contested.<br class=""> <br class=""> The question here is that IF you are applying for a geoname, and IF you are applying as a community TLD, then should you get extra points under the CPE because it is a geoname (that is, it improves your chances of satisfying the CPE and thus winning over some other applicant.<br class=""> <br class=""> I am not sure we have a strong case for getting this approved, nor am I sure it is even worth the effort to try, but I see it as a good thing if we could.<br class=""> <br class=""> Alan<br class=""> <br class=""> <br class=""> At 2020-07-08 11:50 AM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:<br class=""></p><blockquote type="cite" class=""><p class=""><span style="color: #002e7a;" class="">Dear Jonathan and all,</span><br class=""> <br class=""> <span style="color: #002e7a;" class="">Following up on our discussion today during the CPWG call about the geo-names, I would like to explain why I don’t think that geo-names should be incorporated into the CPWG evaluation.<br class=""> In fact, the CPE role is to evaluate whether the application is a community application or not (this is what Alan explained and what I agreed on). So how it might be incorporated? as a criterion to decide if the application is a community application? Shall we request that if the application is for a geo-name string, the CPE should consider it as a community application?</span><br class=""> The CPE evaluates if the applicant represents a community and if the application serves that community whatever the string applied for is (geo-name, language name, culture name, etc.).<br class=""> <br class=""> Tijani<br class=""> <br class=""></p><blockquote type="cite" class=""><p class="">Le 8 juil. 2020 à 07:34, ICANN At-Large Staff <<a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" class="">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a> > a écrit :<br class=""> <br class=""> <strong class=""><em class="">***If you require a dial out or need to state an apology, please contact At-Large staff at <a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" class="">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a> with your preferred number***</em></strong><br class=""> <br class=""> <br class=""> Dear All,<br class=""> <br class=""> The next <strong class="">At-Large</strong> <strong class="">Consolidated 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