<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>See also ICANN's letter to ACTO <a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/chalaby-to-mendoza-03dec18-en.pdf">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/chalaby-to-mendoza-03dec18-en.pdf</a> dated December 3 2018. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Dev Anand<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 1:29 PM Carlos Raul Gutierrez <<a href="mailto:carlosraul@gutierrez.se">carlosraul@gutierrez.se</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif">
<p>Dear Olivier,</p>
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<p>This is really an interesting point and it is new to me. Maybe now that Amazon.com has diversified into</p>
<p>.amazonwebservices</p>
<p>.wholefoods</p>
<p>.alexa</p>
<p>.(face-)rekognition</p>
<p>and is moving its headquarters closer to the Pentagon, they are less intersted in the plain .amazon.................</p>
<p>But in any case, the letter speaks of a great set of new PICs. I´m on the road and have not been able to see them. Once we know and discuss the PICs, and who negotiated them, and how much money they inlcude (those are the first PIC that carry an explicit prive tag, apparently) and who blessed them, we all will be much wiser. Let´s see if ALAC gets to form its own opinion on theses kindler PICs.</p>
<p>So much for a global equal bottom-up multi-stakeholder model for PICs..............</p>
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<p>El 2018-12-03 11:06, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond escribió:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0"> Dear Carlos,<br> <br> unfortunately, there is a deep deep deep error that stems at the very root of the "Amazon" problem. ICANN keeps on referring to "Amazon" and "Amazon Corporation" - and this is either a serious oversight from the drafter of the letter, or is something else which I shall not comment on - but you decide.<br> <br> The real name for "Amazon" is Amazon.com Inc.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_(company)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_(company)</a><br> Stock AMZN - <a class="m_-3445833638532314863moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/amzn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/amzn</a><br> <br> Had they stuck to their original name, they already had their full name under .com.<br> But sometimes in 2011-2012 they changed their trading name to "Amazon" as they started releasing branded products. I am surprised nobody picked on that. In my view, the whole saga between the two (three?) sides is conducted in a very poor way and could have been resolved some time ago. <sigh><br> Kindest regards,<br> <br> Olivier<br> <br>
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Thank you Vanda,
after reading this I have the feeling I know less than before ........... yes, but no, but yes?
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Since this is relevant to our region I believe we shall be aware and informed about all details. This document reflects the movements and explain step by step the negotiation during the last 12 months.
Best regards
Happy Hanukkah to all this celebration is relevant.
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