<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small">Really now!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small">I have retreated from this list because it depresses the spirit....and take away from the quality of my life. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small">May be the member from Ibero-America is in a time zone that is 12 hours ahead of us. But the record will show this is yet another example of the LACRALO [ex] leadership tendency to dictatorial Franco-style behaviour.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small">And why they no longer enjoy my respect. Or acknowledgement.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small">Know this well. The rump that is LACRALO leadership will never be allowed to define the Caribbean's experience or its needs. PERIOD.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><span style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small">I am Jamaican. I know what is happening in Jamaica and the Caribbean at large. Quite apart from the fact we were never consulted, t</span><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">he proposal under CROPP for Derisma Queslin to attend CaribNOG shows major deficiencies. And a woeful ignorance of our situation.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Most CaribNOG attendees are English-speaking. The senior leadership of CaribNOG are very much aware of the technical aspects of ICANN engagement; check out Bevil Wooding here: </font><span style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif"><a href="http://www.root-dnssec.org/tcr/selection-2010/">http://www.root-dnssec.org/tcr/selection-2010/</a></span><span style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif"> </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">I don't know Derisma Queslin. But I can assure you that given the goals of CROPP, I am not aware that Derisma Queslin has the experience or previous involvement in ICANN and ICANN At-Large to effectively execute outreach to mostly English-speaking Caribbean At-Large interests on the behalf of ICANN At-Large. </font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">CROPP has a residual purpose of outreach and engagement. So we could make a very weak case for Derisma Queslin to attend with the goal of having that person become more engaged in ICANN At Large. But absent direct mentoring, that goal would not likely to be successfully realized.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">The proposal submitted by Jacqueline Morris falls directly inline with the desired goals and outcomes for CROPP. My friend and colleague Bevil Wooding is the convenor and in chareg of the agenda at CaribNOG. Jacqueline has already assured a speaking slot at CaribNOG 11, thus raising the profile of ICANN At-Large at CaribNOG 11. Jacqueline could also mentor Derisma and make introductions to the attendees at CaribNOG.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Given we have available CROPP slots, the goals and outcomes of CROPP can be realized by sending both proposals. The proposal for Desirma Queslin may be updated to focus on engagement and the proposal for Jacqueline Morris continues to focus on outreach and she can also mentor Derisma as described earlier.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small">-Carlton Samuels</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small">The University of the West Indies</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><br>==============================<br>Carlton A Samuels<br>Mobile: 876-818-1799<br><i><font color="#33CC00">Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround</font></i><br>=============================</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Jacqueline Morris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com" target="_blank">jam@jacquelinemorris.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi everyone<div>The Outreach meeting information indicated that the deadline for submitting a CROPP application was March 2nd, which is today. I've submitted mine, but it seems from this thread that the decision has already been made, albeit before the due date? I really hope that given that my submission was done in advance of the date, my application is considered for this outreach event.</div><div>Sincerely</div><div>Jacqueline Morris</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div>Jacqueline A. Morris</div><div>Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:16px;word-spacing:2px"><a href="http://twitter.com/chrislehmann" target="_blank">Chris Lehmann</a> )</span></div><div></div></div></div><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:26 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org" target="_blank">sylvia@internautabrasil.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><br>
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From: <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> [mailto: <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] Em nome of Humberto Carrasco<br>
Posted in: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 21:16<br>
To: Alejandro Pisanty<br>
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Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Event Caribnog in Jamaica<br>
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</span><span> The 01/03/2016, at 8:58 pm, Alejandro Pisanty <<a href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com" target="_blank">apisanty@gmail.com</a>> He wrote:<br>
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</span> I applaud this decision by the procedure, criteria, organization and the person appointed. A good result of your action to diversify the presence of the neediest organizations in the Caribbean.<br>
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On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Alberto Soto <<a href="mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org" target="_blank">asoto@ibero-americano.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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Below the link with the application for the event in Montego Bay, Jamaica.<br>
</span> Derisma concur Queslin, member of the Association des Haitienne<br>
Internautes Haiti. This will allow our ALS, which resides in a country<br>
<span> with poor communications, make contact with the various sponsors and<br>
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</span> You get a specific view of the region, and may disseminate<br>
ALS develops its activities, LACRALO and ICANN.<br>
I'll send to the event venue, media materials and LACRALO<br>
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[Mailto: <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] On behalf of Alberto<br>
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</span><span> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] The results of the LACRALO call O &amp; E<br>
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</span> Dear, we are working on the designation of who will attend this<br>
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Thanks Jacqueline, here is how LACRALO CROPP to be filled<br>
<span> <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1+DRAFT" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1+DRAFT</a><br>
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The Sun February 27, 2016 at 18:01, Jacqueline Morris <<a href="mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com" target="_blank">jam@jacquelinemorris.com</a>><br>
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> I can be available for the CaribNog meeting. It luckily falls exactly<br>
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> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and<br>
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> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh<br>
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>> The LACRALO members of the Outreach and Engagement SC (LAC O&E) had a<br>
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>> Thursday 25 February 2016 ( <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/UxmAAw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/UxmAAw</a>)<br>
</span><span> >> Together with the LACRALO chair and secretariat reviewed the LAC<br>
>> Outreach events calendar maintained by the LAC O &amp; E<br>
>> (<a href="Http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar-List</a>) for possible outreach<br>
>> Events That Could be used for CROPP Proposals.<br>
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>> Three Proposals Were Identified as suitable candidates for using CROPP:<br>
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>> CaribNOG (Jamaica) - April 20 to April 22 LACNIC 26 (Cuba) - May 2<br>
>> To May 6 First Latin American and Caribbean Forum (Colombia) - May 17<br>
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>> For the CaribNOG event, no traveler was on the call Suggested.<br>
>> Suggestions?<br>
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>> For the LACNIC 26, Cuba, Harold Suggested Arcos was.<br>
</span> >> A request for LACNIC needs CROPP filed by March to July 2016.<br>
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>> For the Latin American and Caribbean Forum in Colombia, it was<br>
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>> Cybersecurity At this event using a CROPP proposal. A request CROPP<br>
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>> It was NOTED That Bartlett Morgan HAD Obtained a fellowship to SSGI<br>
>> 2016 from March 29 to April 2016 January 2016 so I would need some<br>
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