<div dir="ltr">So <span style="font-size:12.8px">Alejandro are you suggesting that someone outside the region mentor </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">Derisma Queslin along with all the unique economic, cultural and historical challenges we experience in the Caribbean, and if so who do you suggest ? Or are you just taking an ideological stance practical and realistic benefits for that person </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">and the overall goals and outcomes for CROPP</span><span style="font-size:12.8px"> be damned ?</span><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Niran Beharry<br></span><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 9:18 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com" target="_blank">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
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</span> Subject: Re: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica<br>
from: <a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a><br>
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Really now!<br>
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I have retreated From this list it depresses the spirit Because .... and take<br>
<span class=""> away from the quality of my life.<br>
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</span> May be the member from Ibero-America is in a time zone 12 hours That Is<br>
<span class=""> ahead of us. But the record will show this is yet another example of the<br>
</span> LACRALO [former] leadership tendency to dictatorial Franco-style Behaviour.<br>
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And Why They no longer enjoy my respect. Or acknowledgment.<br>
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This well know. The rump That is LACRALO leadership will never be allowed<br>
to define the Caribbean's experience or ITS needs. PERIOD.<br>
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I am Jamaican. I know what is happening in Jamaica and the Caribbean at<br>
</span> large. Quite apart from the fact We were never Consulted, the proposal<br>
CROPP for Derisma under Queslin to Attend CaribNOG major shows<br>
<span class=""> deficiencies. And a woeful ignorance of our situation.<br>
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</span> Most CaribNOG are Inglés-speaking attendees.The senior leadership of<br>
<span class=""> CaribNOG are very much aware of the technical aspects of ICANN engagement;<br>
</span> Bevil Wooding check out here:<br>
<a href="http://www.root-dnssec.org/tcr/selection-2010/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.root-dnssec.org/tcr/selection-2010/</a><br>
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I do not know Derisma Queslin. But I can Assure You That Given the goals of<br>
CROPP, I am not aware That Derisma Queslin have the experience or previous<br>
Involvement in ICANN and ICANN At-Large to Effectively execute outreach to<br>
Inglés-speaking Caribbean mostly At-Large interests on the Behalf of ICANN<br>
At-Large.<br>
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CROPP has a residual purpose of outreach and engagement. So We Could make a<br>
very weak case for Derisma Queslin to Attend With the goal of Having That<br>
Become more person engaged in ICANN At Large. But absent direct mentoring,<br>
That goal would not likely to be successfully Realized.<br>
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The Proposal Submitted By Jacqueline Morris falls inline Directly With The<br>
Desired goals and outcomes for CROPP. My friend and colleague Bevil<br>
Wooding is the convenor and in chareg of the book at CaribNOG. Jacqueline<br>
Already have a speaking slot at assured CaribNOG 11 THUS raising the<br>
profile of ICANN At-Large at CaribNOG 11.Jacqueline Could Also mentor<br>
<span class=""> Derisma and make introductions to the attendees at CaribNOG.<br>
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</span> We Have Given CROPP available slots, the goals and outcomes of CROPP can be<br>
Realized by sending Both Proposals. The proposal for Desirma Queslin May be<br>
<span class=""> updated to focus on engagement and the proposal for Jacqueline Morris<br>
</span> Continues to focus on outreach and she can mentor Also as described Derisma<br>
earlier.<br>
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Samuels -Carlton<br>
<span class=""> The University of the West Indies<br>
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Carlton A Samuels<br>
Mobile: <a href="tel:876-818-1799" value="+18768181799">876-818-1799</a><br>
</span> * Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment &amp; Turnaround *<br>
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On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM Jacqueline Morris <<a href="mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com">jam@jacquelinemorris.com</a><br>
<span class="">> wrote:<br>
> Hi everyone<br>
> The Outreach meeting information indicated that the deadline for<br>
> submitting a CROPP application was March 2nd, which is today. I've<br>
> submitted mine, but it seems from this thread that the decision has<br>
> already been made, albeit before the due date? I really hope that given<br>
> that my submission was done in advance of the date, my application is<br>
> considered for this outreach event.<br>
> Sincerely<br>
> Jacqueline Morris<br>
><br>
> Jacqueline A. Morris<br>
> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and<br>
</span>> Free. (after Chris Lehmann <<a href="http://twitter.com/chrislehmann" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/chrislehmann</a>> )<br>
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> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:26 PM, <<a href="mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org">sylvia@internautabrasil.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]<br>
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>> Subject: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica<br>
>> from: <a href="mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org">sylvia@internautabrasil.org</a><br>
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>> Sylvia Leite Herlein<br>
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>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org">sylvia@internautabrasil.org</a>> <a href="mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org">sylvia@internautabrasil.org</a><br>
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>> ALAC-LACRALO Delegate to NomComm 2014-2016<br>
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>> One World, One Internet<br>
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>> ex - LACRALO Secretary-ICANN / 2012-2014 -<br>
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>> ex - ALAC Member 2009-2011 - <<a href="http://atlarge.icann.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://atlarge.icann.org/</a>><br>
>> <a href="http://atlarge.icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://atlarge.icann.org</a><br>
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>> Skype: sylvia_leite<br>
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>> Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil<br>
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>> From: <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> [mailto:<br>
>> <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] Em nome of Humberto<br>
>> Carrasco<br>
>> Posted in: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 21:16<br>
>> To: Alejandro Pisanty<br>
>> Cc: LACRALO<br>
>> Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Event Caribnog in Jamaica<br>
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>> Alexander,<br>
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>> A very wise decision in my view.<br>
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>> Cheers<br>
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>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
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>> The 01/03/2016, at 8:58 pm, Alejandro Pisanty <<a href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com">apisanty@gmail.com</a>> He<br>
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>> Alberto, all / as,<br>
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>> I applaud this decision by the procedure, criteria, organization and the<br>
>> person appointed. A good result of your action to diversify the presence of<br>
>> the neediest organizations in the Caribbean.<br>
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>> Alejandro Pisanty<br>
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>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Alberto Soto <<a href="mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org">asoto@ibero-americano.org</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
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>> Dear all, Dev.<br>
>> Below the link with the application for the event in Montego Bay,<br>
>> Jamaica.<br>
>> Derisma concur Queslin, member of the Association des Haitienne<br>
>> Internautes Haiti. This will allow our ALS, which resides in a country<br>
>> with poor communications, make contact with the various sponsors and<br>
>> concurrent. It is requested that ALS had a technical profile for<br>
>> be commensurate to the level of the event.<br>
>> You get a specific view of the region, and may disseminate<br>
>> ALS develops its activities, LACRALO and ICANN.<br>
>> I'll send to the event venue, media materials and LACRALO<br>
>> I CAN.<br>
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>> Best regards<br>
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>> Alberto Soto<br>
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>> <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1+DRAFT" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1+DRAFT</a><br>
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>> -----Original message-----<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>
>> [Mailto: <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] On behalf of<br>
>> Alberto<br>
>> copse<br>
>> Posted on: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:39 a.m.<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org">lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>
>> CC: 'LACRALO discussion list' <<a href="mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org">lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] The results of the LACRALO call O &amp; E<br>
>> on Thursday 25 February 2016<br>
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>> Dear, we are working on the designation of who will attend this<br>
>> event. This form will be filed with the applicant designated in the<br>
>> today or tomorrow.<br>
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>> Best regards<br>
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>> Alberto Soto<br>
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>> -----Original message-----<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>
>> [Mailto: <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] On behalf of<br>
>> Posted<br>
>> on: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:01 a.m.<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org">lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>
>> CC: LACRALO discussion list <<a href="mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org">lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: Results of the LACRALO call O &amp; E on Thursday 25<br>
>> February 2016<br>
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>> Subject: Re: Results of the LACRALO call O &amp; E on Thursday 25<br>
>> February 2016<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:devtee@gmail.com">devtee@gmail.com</a><br>
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>> Thanks Jacqueline, here is how LACRALO CROPP to be filled<br>
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>> <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1+DRAFT" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1+DRAFT</a><br>
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>> The materials can be sent to headquarters by the ICANN staff,<br>
>> provided advance notice. Outreach and Participation SC<br>
>> wiki has a page to keep track of such materials<br>
>> broadcasting applications.<br>
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>> dev Anand<br>
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>> The Sun February 27, 2016 at 18:01, Jacqueline Morris <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com">jam@jacquelinemorris.com</a>><br>
>> He wrote:<br>
>> > Hi everyone<br>
>> > I can be available for the CaribNog meeting. It luckily falls exactly<br>
>> > in<br>
>> > days between the UTT and UWI exam periods. Can materials etc be<br>
>> > shipped directly to the venue? The overlap on April 20th between ARIN<br>
>> > and CaribNog seems serendipitous as well. Sounds like a great<br>
>> opportunity<br>
>> > Jacqueline<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Jacqueline A. Morris<br>
>> > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and<br>
>> > (after Chris Lehmann )<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh<br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Dear All,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The LACRALO members of the Outreach and Engagement SC (LAC O&E) had a<br>
>> >> on<br>
>> >> Thursday 25 February 2016 ( <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/UxmAAw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/UxmAAw</a>)<br>
>> >> Together with the LACRALO chair and secretariat reviewed the LAC<br>
>> >> Outreach events calendar maintained by the LAC O &amp; E<br>
>> >> (<a href="Http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar-List</a>) for possible outreach<br>
>> >> Events That Could be used for CROPP Proposals.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Three Proposals Were Identified as suitable candidates for using<br>
>> CROPP:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> CaribNOG (Jamaica) - April 20 to April 22 LACNIC 26 (Cuba) - May 2<br>
>> >> To May 6 First Latin American and Caribbean Forum (Colombia) - May 17<br>
>> >> To May 18<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> For the CaribNOG event, no traveler was on the call Suggested.<br>
>> >> Suggestions?<br>
>> >> A request for CaribNOG CROPP needs to be filed around March 2, 2016.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> For the LACNIC 26, Cuba, Harold Suggested Arcos was.<br>
>> >> A request for LACNIC needs CROPP filed by March to July 2016.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> For the Latin American and Caribbean Forum in Colombia, it was<br>
>> >> Suggested That a speaker, Shiva Bissessar Could speak on<br>
>> >> Cybersecurity At this event using a CROPP proposal. A request CROPP<br>
>> >> For This proposal needs to be filed by March 29 2016.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> It was NOTED That Bartlett Morgan HAD Obtained a fellowship to SSGI<br>
>> >> 2016 from March 29 to April 2016 January 2016 so I would need some<br>
>> >> Outreach materials before then.<br>
>> >><br>
>> Dev Anand &gt;&gt;<br>
>> >> _______________________________________________<br>
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